Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Question

I read that you need to take the "fuzzy" coating off the seeds before consumption. However, I received my HBWR today and see no signs of a fuzzy coating. The seeds look very dark, and are as hard as a rock. Is it possible that these seeds have already been "de-shelled"?

Does anyone have a picture of HBWR de-shelled to compare?

Edit:

I started to scrape some of the darker stuff off the seed until I see only white. Is this the correct thing to do? The seeds I have are the Hawaiian strain, if that matters.

 

I always chewed the seeds with the dark coating and it was ok. I chewed on them for a long time, 10-15 minutes, before swallowing. It's a bit rough on the stomach, so I suggest you have a snack 1-2 hours before taking the seeds.

Have fun!

 

I scraped as much of the dark coating off the seeds that I could without killing myself. Took me about 30 minutes for 7 seeds. I crushed them up and put them in OJ. Letting them sit for around 3 days. Ill post how it turns out. :cheers2:

 

i think ur going a bit over the top with the scraping side of things all you have to remove is the soft dark husk it can usually be done with your thumb nail, also next time you do them dont worry about leaving them to sit in liquid for 3 days a couple of hours max is enough.

 

We didn't hear about the guy since then. I hope he's still alive.

 

I've used seeds with the fuzz on and off and there has never been a difference

 

I have just eaten them straight. I did feel kinda sick about an hour later but didn't puke.

It worked for sure

 

Yeh ive eaten the seeds straight up too, its bad but nowhere near as bad as DXM or poorly prepared san pedro tea

 

I recommended boiling up the kettle, placing all the seeds into a bowl, then proceed to soak the seeds in the boiling water. From here move the seeds into another bowl and you can easily pick off the shell, then get all the insides and place it in another bowl (or a mortar if you have one) then crush it all up with a wooden spool or pestle. From here add a few drops of water and keep crushing and adding water until you have a thick glug. using a spoon put it all in your gob. Not the tastiest but a bit better and easier to chew around with. Easier on the stomach too

 

the seeds from iamshaman don't seem to have a coating on them, I have never removed it before eating them and I've never got nausea that wasnt either fleeting or almost unnoticeable.

 

Trust me you will recognize "fuzzy" coating You can take it out just by your nails. If your seeds are hard and dark than coating was allready scraped out...

I had these couple times. Dont chew on seeds cause its more likely to make you sick. We usually grind 12 seeds (each) in a fine powder and then mix it with any kind of citrus based juice. I never puked from HBWR but i allways feel nausea and iam not able to swallow any food. Iam pretty sure i would puke if i eat anything. In my last trip i was trying to eat roll, i ended up just chewing small pieces and then spitting them out Also smoking weed helps to keep my nausea under control.

Anyway HBWR can produce great trip but you have to be aware of all bad effects that come with it. Nausea and especially leg/arm cramps which can last up to 20 hours after taking seeds (HBWR constrict veins), it feels like crushed glass running tru your veins. But it gets better instantly if you sit or lay down. After all most of HBWR trip is poisoning.

My HBWR trip usually last 8-10 hours, comes in waves with numerous false peaks. If i lay down i almost imediately fell sober but every time i stand up it hits me like i just finished bong. So I like to walk/blunder asross room enjoying full effect of HBWR.

I really enjoy these seeds when ïam with friend but DONT DO THEM ALONE being alone in your room concentrating on leg cramps etc. for 8+ hours might be terrible experience. You will end up calling yourself an ambulance

 

I have never experienced the nausia people report with HBWR and Morning Glory seeds and never encountered any "fuzzy" substance. I guess I'm just one of the lucky ones.

 

Yeah my friend decided he'd try them first. He got no effects due to throwing it all up like a bitch. Took me like 40 minutes to scrape the seeds too

I'll try again sometime, but I'm too lazy to scrape more seeds atm.

 

I use sandpaper. You can get those sanding sponges hold one in your hand and put a sheet on the table. Put the seeds on the sheet and roll them around with the sanding sponge or pad.

Easier and you can do more. What you need is a modified rock tumbler or something. That would be for volume. I don't eat the seeds I make lsa.

 

that's pretty much it in a nutshell. I prefer extraction. No nausea.

 

u mean a simple extraction? like acetone or alcohol extraction?

and do u grow it?

 

I don't grow it it just grows all over some areas. like across the street where I planted it.

I use several methods this being the easiest.

http://www.clearwhitelight.org/hatter/LSAextraction.htm

 

After wanting to try woodrose for years now, I finally have a friend who has 1000 on the way! I will probably try 8-10 in a water extraction, just as I would do for morning glory. Does anyone have experience doing this? It seems most people ingest them straight, but I would like to hear something first-hand about the water method.

Also, how does the nausea experienced when eaten straight compare to morning glory eaten straight? I would assume there would be much less, but I'm interested to get the details before doing some of my own experiments:cheers2:

 

Oh, also, would extracting in say, grapefruit juice do anything at all? Or possibly adding some citric acid to the water? I have heard lots about using citrus with other plants, but I'm curious about anything this may or may not add to the trip.

And what about MAOI's? Would they have any bearing on an LSA trip at all? Or just do more harm then good? Interested in any experiences you people may have had attempting to "supplement" the trip.

 

Lemon juice is usually added to improve the taste, cause HBWR extractions really taste like shit. I personally think that the acidity of lemon juice makes it worse, but to each his own. I have doubts about making an extraction with fruit juice instead of water, but you can mix it with juice before drinking it, that could work.