Any way to make the trip stronger?

Discussion in 'Magic Mushrooms' started by Coromaster, Oct 13, 2009.

  1. Coromaster

    Coromaster Member

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    I'm curious if anyone here knows a way to give shrooms a little extra kick. It could either be before, during, or after consumption. Curious to see what knowledge some sages here possess.
     
  2. PeaceInTheStreets

    PeaceInTheStreets Member

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    Eat more of them haha.
     
  3. VaporDude

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  4. Omacatl

    Omacatl Senior Member

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    syrian rue or b. caapi can intensify shrooms. use dietary precaution to eliminate any possible physical discomfort. also be warned this type of potentiation can increase effects twofold. 3 grams of shrooms and rue is a very very strong trip. you may get more than you bargained for so take it easy when first testing this combo.

    contrary to popular belief rue and caapi are not MAOIs they are RIMAs. reversible. unlike pharmaceutical MAOIs which can have contraditctions they are a bit safer. still you can get a headache from improper food reactions so take care when using them and follow a proper diet.
     
  5. mastercylinder

    mastercylinder Banned

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    orange juice or megadosses vitec
     
  6. 36fuckin5

    36fuckin5 Alchemycologist

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    This is a myth. I think it stems from the fact that psilocybin citrate hits faster & harder than the natural form in the plant. I'd guess the plant has freebase in it, judging by how fast it oxidizes and how easily it converts to the citrate salt.

    OP: MAOIs, or what Omacatl suggested. You can also grind them to powder, cover with lemon/lime juice, strain then add sugar & water to make lemonade/limeade to convert to the citrate salt. It won't potentiate it as much as an MAOI, though.
     
  7. young_deadhead

    young_deadhead I Love Lucy

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    take other drugs with the mushies
     
  8. RiversClearwater

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    First off...aw man 36...I've watched/seen your mushie posts, you know your shit no doubt for a second but you must be slightly off today, mushies are fungi :) just fuckin with you, anyhow, the best idea really is to just up the dose (I can't imagine being let down taking over an 1/8 unless they are really really bad) or take precautions with a MAOI.
     
  9. StrangDoors

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    Meditation.

    I took a 1.5 gram cube trip because I only had 3 grams and wanted to introduce a friend into the wonderful world of mushies I meditated and got quite high, it's all where you want to go, let me put it this way:
    Say you take 3 grams and don't put any coal in the engine (train analogy everyone!) your not really gonna go anywhere, but take a deuce and throw some coal in there and you can ride that train to space if you want.

    Don't get the impression that how powerful the trip is is solely based on dosage.
     
  10. lostdazedintime

    lostdazedintime Fucked in the head

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    Eat a quarter and start bong-ripping caapi till you cant remember how.
     
  11. young_deadhead

    young_deadhead I Love Lucy

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    getting scared or when something exciting happens gives me an intense high for a little bit. So i dunno have someone jump out at you or go ride some roller coasters
     
  12. weeattoes

    weeattoes what will be, will be

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    Everyone tells me to drink some orange juice with them and smoke a bowl
     
  13. young_deadhead

    young_deadhead I Love Lucy

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    orange juice is just a stupid myth
     
  14. TheRabbitandtheBuck

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    Jumping jacks... That is to say that I've found that exercise and body movement is good to both induce the trip and bring it on stronger, I'm guessing because you are moving your circulatory system faster and because of the increased blood flow to your brain. Careful that you don't make your heart pump too fast, though, as psychedelics can sometimes vaguely interfere with normally autonomic responses; they sometimes do for me, at least. I (albeit rarely) find I can suddenly control my heart rate or something of that sort.
    Yon Deadhead is probably on to something with the "scare tactics". You might try to legitimately gasp when you definitely are starting to feel them come on.
    Think about things that you find interesting, mental stimulus could help, but so can clearing your mind...
    You could also try some various breathing techniques or maybe chanting mantras, idk, maybe "OHM" over and over, RELAXING, taking in deep breaths, and letting them slowly out while vibrating your vocal cords being the key idea, along with visualizing the sensations of tripping on mushrooms as clearly as possible, and the positive visualization that you ARE, not are going to, ARE having the experience you seek. Listen to the intonations of your voice and let the vibrations move your mind. It can be difficult to manage all of these actions at once.
    Other than that, I nod to the previously suggested bong rips and meditation. If you get quiet and still, you might be surprised where you can go with barely an active dose, or even none at all. You can use previous knowledge and experiences as a sort of a road map to open up to previously visited domains or to break open into the experience in general. I find that less is very often more, because you get high enough to break free from the pull of gravity and go where you want, yet not so much that you blast off to a foreign dimension, struggling to cope with new circumstances, not that the latter isn't good to experience as well, but sometimes it's nice to know your head and feat, so to speak. I hope this helps.
     
  15. NorCaliGreenFiend

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    Dont take an MAOI+psilocybin, it can be highly unpleasant. use other safer drugs to potentiate, meditate, run around, but dont take an MAOI.
     
  16. Mr.Writer

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    A lot of people don't do mushrooms without an MAOI.
     
  17. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    In triplicate.
     
  18. Omacatl

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    RIMAs like syrian rue and b.caapi are relatively safe. they are not true MAOI's.
    i wouldn't recommend someone take it without researching it first, but with proper precautions taken i don't see a problem.
    regulating the dose of each to just the right point of synergy is important to minimize discomfort.
     
  19. Desos

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    great thread.

    so now what exactly is caapi and rue? caapi is a vine right? what is syrian rue?

    and how do you administer them? what is the drug in it's base form, and do you need to prepare it in a certain way? what techniques do you use?

    i've heard that these drugs have psychoactive effects themselves. is this true? what are the effects like?
     
  20. Omacatl

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    Syrian Rue
    a desert shrub that has seeds containing harmine and harmaline. these beta carbolines are active by themselves. used to allow oral ingestion of DMT, as well as to enhance mushrooms and other tryptamines. you prepare the seeds by grinding them or making a tea. small doses of rue produce a very relaxed, drowsy feeling with a change in visual field, colors enhanced, and tracers. in higher doses it produces considerable nausea and discomfort. some part of the seed seems difficult to digest.

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    Banisteriopsis caapi

    contains harmine and tetrahydroharmaline.
    the yage vine. the main component of ayahuasca.
    feels very different from rue. more smooth and clear-headed of a feeling and less harsh effects on the body. although the body load isn't as great it will make you purge when brewed as a tea or in ayahuasca.large doses are extremely visual, no dmt needed! i prefer caapi/THH to the others. there are quite a few varieties of it, i always get white caapi as this is the best. some places now carry pure THH extract.

    also really good to potentiate shrooms is pure cacao (theobromine). also passionflower adds some nice effects to mushrooms. if you cannot get rue or caapi try some passionflower tea or strong, bitter, chocolate (pure as possible)
     

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