yes, multiple. what you read is mostly likely true, it does what they say it does. my first experiences were with 15x extract, which I would not recommend. I now prefer premium commercial leaf powder to anything else, even more expensive Red Vein. my first experiences were more opiate like, I would sit down, and feel very euphoric, but still quite able to stand and move heavy objects. the more I take it however, the more stimulating the effects are for me. Now I feel like riding my bike, or walking around when I take it. Ive found kratom to be the best ethnobotanical for what it is, a mild stimulant/ sedative that is neither too intense, nor unpleasant. I take it 1 to 2 times a week, although its been some time since Ive had some.
it is my substance of choice but know that it won't be like your typical opiate high, in fact I like it better
Kratom is awesome. Unless you have a high tolerance to opiates, that is. If you have a low tolerance, than it is a very cost effective opiate. And best of all, its legal, so you avoid all of the risks with buying pharms or H illegally. I would recommend kratomcats.net. They have good prices, great, fresh product, and the store owner is very helpful and personal. He'll usually send you a free sample upon request, if you sound sincere and like a promising buyer. I would definitely try it if you have a low tolerance, but keep it on the DL. The more people that know about it, the more likely it is to become illegal. If you have any other questions, like dosing and which product to try first, feel free to ask me. Cheers
yea i had boughten 8 ozs a while ago and had gone through 2 oz. but then i got heavy into opiates and my tolerance got pretty high with the 80s. but i suggest to get Maeng Da "Pimp Grade" kratom as its the strongest kind. but i dont catch on it anymore oh yea to above poster, yea im sure by posting a site it will get less people knowing about it ^^. lol
I used to enjoy this, but effects varied massively between brands. Had some shit that didnt do anything, at SIX TIMES the recommended dose, it was some liquid version called thai dragonfly or something. stay away from that. got best results with the leaves, not the extracts. nice stuff. quite nauseating relative to its high tho, more so than codeine i'd say..
^^ This. You never know how its gonna be, depending on which one you try it could be not worth it, but if you get a good kind it's a pretty decent high. But as mentioned the nausea you expirience is not fun if you dont have any zofran or phenergan.
Yah. Diphen is great for nausea with me, so's valium. Obviously both increase drowsiness but given the nature of our forum I don't think that's gonna worry anybody too much! Most antiemetics are potential sedatives I think from what I've read.
Yo T3tra, I never heard of zofran so i just read up on it...some research has shown it can reduce WD's (not just from an anti-nausea point of view, but the whole syndrome)
Very interesting. Where did you read this? I mean i always use it for my opii nausea but never for WD. If you could give me a source it would would be much appreciated, I'm intrested in readin it. Thanks!
