Over the next few weeks I will be trying amt hcl, 4-aco-dmt and 2c-e, then reporting my findings here. I was wondering if anyone has first hand experience of mixing these with alcohol....my friends all like a good drink and I dont want to see any of them unnecessarily get into difficulties. Is it reasonably safe to mix a quantity of alcohol with these rc.
we usually consume a lot of alcohol no matter what else we take (we are N.Irish) its in our blood so im not sure about us not wanting alcohol...its never happened before. I asking about the effects if we do (which we will).:cheers2:
I would say probably not a large amount on the 2ce. Knowing how bad some people's stomach discomforts get.. beer might not be to your advantage.
Have you ever tripped before? If so and you like to drink alcohol with it, then by all means go ahead. But I would not want to taint the experience with alcohol.
I wouldn't, just because you don't know for sure what might happen. They're untested drugs. I'm very cautious with RCs, though.
I will only drink on a the come down of any proper drug i take, out of respect. i also rarely smoke up early in too, i like my experiences very naked and starkly nude if ya get my expression.
i agree 100% with that statement...aside from on lsd. i like a few beers to take the nervous edge off of lsd.
True thats why I choose not to indulge in alcoholduring the trip, for respect and also it would taint the overall experience.
Yeah bro Ive tripped before. I have plenty of experience with most drugs but this wll be the first few experiments with rc. Usually, like Mr.Writer says I normally dont drink until the comedown...mostly to help presuade myself to sleep if I think I need it. I like to feel the full effects of the particular substance Ive ingested. My major concern has been that a few of my friends really, really, really love their alcohol and as rc's are relatively untested I want to avoid any of them doing anything stupid.........I cant see much of a problem with a few beer, but some of these moon cats will drink a bottle of vodka before they go out and think nothing of it. Not being sure of how alcohol + rc + unamed person will react to the cocktail I will advise all to procede with extreme caution.
there is very little data on what taking rc's alone does to you medically, much less combined with alcohol, for which there is a lot of data, 99% of which is bad. Sometimes there is bad synergy between chemicals. For example, combining cocaine and alcohol together makes them form Coca Ethyl in your liver, which is more hepatoxic than alcohol or cocaine combined. It is -intensly- toxic to your liver. I imagine many other ethylated compounds are created with RCs which are just bad, bad news. Drinking is great on more "candy" psychedelics, but a proper dose of 4-aco-dmt and I really don't think you'll be interested in drinking alcohol. You may not quite understand what the act of drinking is if you took enough.
mostly its the chemicals reacting badly that I feel it is wise to be on the look-out for. I fully intend on dosing enough to lose the concept of drinking.....then again its not me Im worried about.
tell your friend not to drink on it tell them it's stupid it's risky enough to take an rc it's more risky to to take an rc after you drank a bottle of vodka
great news! the very few times i have done coke, i was drunk, or drinking my way there. i think that's probably true for most people.
yup, its just one of those facts that is absent enough from common knowledge to really illuminate the terrible education we give to our brothers and sisters about, well, everything.
No idea, somewhere in my readings on cocaine years ago, probably here http://www.cocaine.org/cocaethylene.htm