salt or freebase

Discussion in 'Synthetic Drugs' started by moachana, Oct 6, 2009.

  1. moachana

    moachana Member

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    I am just about to get some amt....I just realised its Hcl.
    does this make any to difference ?
    The only thing that I am aware of is that the salt will be more soluble in water and less efficient to smoke.
    Is there anything else I should be aware of ?
     
  2. 36fuckin5

    36fuckin5 Alchemycologist

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    HCl is perfectly fine, and the preferred salt form.
     
  3. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    though if youre getting through the .*k source then he actually mislabeled it, its aMT freebase. This is actually better for you, because turns out freebase is like 8% more potent or thereabouts and plus with freebase you can smoke it more effectively, which is nice if thats something you wanna try, personally i dont, i am paranoid of pyrolysis, and it appears to truly rear a speed like side when smoked. of course using a glass oil-pipe solves this but then i dont think i want to inhale hot aMT vapors. If you've ever smelled it im sure you understand. Just not worth it.
     
  4. shermin

    shermin Bazooka Tooth

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    ^haha

    i'm pretty sure homeboy fixed the labeling on his site. :)
     
  5. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    yeah he did now, but he had it up for quite a while erroneously, several weeks. many purchases done in that time.
     
  6. moachana

    moachana Member

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    From what I hear my preferred intake method will be orally so I dont think not being able to smoke it will be a problem.......although I will probably want to try smoking it at a latter date to compare the effects.

    It is our plan to store our excess in a vaccuum container to keep out moisture inside a fridge.....Do rc's store well, are they stable enough to hold potency after storage ?



    P.S why is there now a red light below my name.......It says Ive had 'shameless behaviour in the past' LOL my friends all know im shameless but this dont stop me being one of the good guys.....why did you have to tell everyone im shameless lol
    Im also relatively ego-less but they arent telling everyone my good points. lmao
     
  7. 36fuckin5

    36fuckin5 Alchemycologist

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    Damn, run-on sentence. Anyway...

    The freebase is only more potent because it has the HCl molecule attached to it. Shouldn't really make much difference. The thing about freebases in general, though, is that they're usually not as stable as their salt form. IDK about the stability of AMT, but personally, I would convert it to a HCL. Just dissolve the freebase in a NP then gas it out.

    I don't reccomend that anybody smoke RCs, especially AMT. You can OD, and since smoking can deliver a large dose at once, it makes it more likely.
     
  8. moachana

    moachana Member

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    Im gonna avoid smoking any rc for the meant-time.
    By all accounts they smell and taste vile......I dont really fancy a lung full of it.
     
  9. CrypToka420

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    the 5meo-dmt i tried doesnt taste half bad actually, kinda natural like but also chemically. but all other rcs ive come in contact with are pretty disgusting.
     
  10. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    4-aco-dmt is actually pleasantly bittersweet, sort of like amphetamine.
     
  11. shermin

    shermin Bazooka Tooth

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    i believe once you basify 4-aco-dmt it oxidizes straigt back to psilocin...at least i read that on bluelight...you didn't smoke the hcl salt did you?
     
  12. Xanonimity

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    That's the taste of the freebase powder on the tongue.
     
  13. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    no i just took it orally. going to insufflate next time.
     
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