xanonimity, i've READ that methylone and especially butylone "suck" compared to mephedrone and mdma. but you may (or may not) be right about their higher level of safety
Methylone is almost for sure safer imo, it has been around for much longer with none of the horrible effects of mephedrone reported.
yea, methylone is much more mild, but can still be a lot of fun. i've had less experience with that than with mephedrone, but had one intense trip on ~200 mg and DMT. it was beautiful.
Don't have time to read the entire thread. Does anyone know if Mephedrone can be combined with MDMA? Say, at the tail end of the experience? Anyone have any experience mixing with Foxy or Aces(4-aco-dipt)?
Just to make sure: are you saying that the best way to dose 4mmc is to bomb a dose (say ~200mg) then 1 hour later bomb a booster dose (say ~100mg) and that if you do this, the best part of the high last for around 6 hours as opposed to just a couple hours if you just take one big dose or just dose multiple times without regards to timing. IOW are you saying that, if you took the booster 2 hours after the initial dose that it wouldn't extend the best part of the high like it would if you took the booster 1 hour after? Is timing that important? Can anyone confirm this?
Timing is extremely important. 4-MMC doesnt have a really long half life. It may, but the extreme dopamine releaseing (and I assume even BLOCKING the reuptake) doesn't last NEARLY as long as the epinephrine release. You either redose within an hour or burn out your dopamine receptors and feind for more, without bgeing able to get back what you're looking for.
I found this stuff to be extremely moreish and your tolerence buils up quite fast, i had 5g on the thursday, i would mix a little in a bottle cap with some lucozade then drink it, by friday night i wasnt getting the same effects so i started doing lines, i have to say this is probaly one of the most painful substances ive ever snorted. Anyhow, the buzz was strong, and like i said this is moreish, maybe addictive, i would be up till about 8am doing lines from the friday till sunday, come 7.30am monday morning i finished my 5g and went to work for 8.30, this stuff is pretty amazing but if youve got some, youll find you just dont want to stop. Their dosnt seem to be much of a comedown as such it just wears off, i found the following week after that long weekend, i got quite bad coldsores, what looked like psoriasis on my legs, and my nose took a good two weeks to heel, even now after about 7 weeks when i get up in the morning and blow me nose, thers the odd blood cluster. oh i forgot to mention, after prelonged dose, im not sure if u wud call this tripping as such, but i swear i hear voices/whispers in the background.
Am I the only person that prefers methylone to mephedrone? I find the euphoria feels much more real. Mephedrone isn't bad though, I'm going to pick some up from a friend in a bit then it's line time! You learn to love the pain of snorting meph, haha, it's a bit twisted but you know what's coming.
Depends if you like stimulation euphoria or relaxed euphoria. I like Methylone personally. My friends call Mephedrone Punch because you feel like you got punched in the nose after you rail it.
methylone can be extremely euphoric...less of a dopaminergic [sp?] response, but similar to a shorter acting, weaker mdma. i really don't like doing 4-mmc often. it can be fucking beautiful though. i prefer meph as my occasional 5-ht bomb over mdxx any day.
So meph is like MDMA on speed? would upping the does on methylone increase the euphoria? has anyone evver done like 400mg+?
i honestly don't get that depressed...i can feel 'emotionally empty', but it's not like the post mdma depression, or the anxiety of a cocaine comedown. i find that the few days following a bunch of meph are never very good, but if i were getting that high on any other stimulant i wouldn't be able to get out of bed after coming down. mephedrone hits me VERY hard...150mg insufflated felt like a dmt onset...i've experienced short ego death on mephedrone [without addition of any other chemicals]
hey, where did you get this at? what website? and how much? just looking at a few websites and nothing sounds promising and is like $100 for 5g, which is a lot.
I was doing mephdrone in snorted doses of 20-80 mgs .. i should have blasted myself with 200 orally to begin with but i was afraid to od the two times i did it.