Is it nasty like salvia

i have done salvia a few times with not much strong effect.
last time we got good X35 extract , i packed the bowl and killed it in 2 massive sucks....immediately i was gone.
i imagined the fireplace came out like a train and hit me.
I then felt like i was being sucked through the eye of a needle, which for some reason i thought was carrying me to death.
in reality i was actully spinning around on the floor!
when i sttod up a strong wind/force acted upon me.
it blew me first a few paces into the dinner table, then quickly straight through the living room with a back flip over the sofa into the bay window, and pulling down some window blinds in the process.
I was unaware of all of this.
a friend helped me from the window, at this point i became slightly more aware.
when i saw them cleaning the mess on the floor where i spilt drinks spinning around i believed they were cleaning the mess where i died.
when i felt my trousers they seemed damp...i figured i wet myself when i died!
I was reassured that i was not dead.
I quickly came back to reality. My mates thought it was hilarious.
I enjoyed it because it was such a fucked up experience, however i wouldnt of called it a pleasant feeling....it seemed quite a dark place.
i enjoyed it most because it took me sooo far away.
I am up for trying anything but i dont get that satisfaction if it tends to b a dark place that the drug takes me to..ie vodka lol
Before im asked ive had a lot of experience with acid and shrooms and overall most have been positive experiences, so i am aware that a bad mental state will ultimately lead to a bad place.
I am really asking if in the opinion of experinced people ..does DMT take you to a nice place or does it tend to b darker???
Also like to hear of same opinion on the 2c family.

thanks for reading this looong post

 

DMT can take you many places...

 

n,n-DMT tends to be nicer for me, salvia often feels like it just wants to fuck with me although I have also had some great trips with it. DMT usually brings a profound sense of awe above anything else.

As for the 2C-xs, it depends on which one. I find 2C-E can have a darker side to it whereas the lighter ones (2C-I, 2C-B etc.) are more giggly and not really true psychedelics.

 

thanks deliasmith , i feel slightly more informed than i did.
its more than someone typing erowid.com lol.
come on guys dont be shy share your thoughts on this.

 

Salvia tastes like HEALTH

 

i have gained little from smoking DMT. i prefer Ayahuasca by far. i have already sat in a ceremony and it was more awe inspiring than many of my smoked DMT experiences.

Quidding fresh salvia leaf has been less evil/sinister than a lot of my smoked DMT experiences. in fact i find salvia, when not smoked, is a beautiful and loving plant. She is like a Mother. Would you burn your mother? i think not. if you treat her with love and respect she will bless you.

 

How is quidding salvia?
I've heard that it is a less intense experience that has a longer duration. Do you find this to be the case?

 

whats the difference between 5-me0-dmt and n--n-dmt ?

 

it is less intense but i get a lot of the same sensations/feelings as i did when i first experimented with smoking. it lasts a few hours. also i could get up walk around and feel fine to take a break and go use the bathroom perfectly normal. but when i sat back down and closed my eyes it felt like i was moving..almost as if on a train or something. the feeling of moving felt very very fast. for some folks i could see this being less than pleasant.

 

Yeah im gonna stall on the dmt and work my way up to it.
That rapid ascent fucks me up.
Might start with amt.

 

i highly recommend aMT as an introduction to tryptamines and psychedelics in general. It is overwhelmingly positive, blissful, and *ecstatic* and you're BLOWN AWAY by everything and music is just reeheeheeheeheeellyyy good.

all this can be yours for the low low price of 20mg aMT orally.

 

i thought you said aMT wasn't very psychedelic

 

and back on topic...i don't find 2ce to be "dark" like many people say
but i haven't tried that large of a dose
my highest was 20 mg and that DID get a little rough and i suppose "dark"
i think 2ce takes me to a nice place

i made a thread about it, and there are a few other, but i don't have personal experience

 

It isn't particularly. He did say he recommends it as a beginner tryptamine though.
It's not too bad, just don't expect to trip balls.

Also Mr.Writer, your sig seems to get bigger and bigger each time.

 

I wil b experimenting with a few friends.
1 of them is famous for freak outs so i dont want to scare his socks off with a dmt hit to start him off.
Its probs best to start him on amt/ 4-aco-Dmt.

 

Ha, if he freaks out a lot I'd start him off on a-MT, 4-AcO-DMT next, then start thinking about things like n,n-DMT.
Maybe even give him a couple of 4-AcO-DMT trips, building up the dosage.

 

He will probs manage to force a freak out no matter what i give him....it seems to b his talent.
Ive never seen anyone trip as much/often off just E, but he always goes back for more lol
rc will blow his mind.

 

i was confused

i thought writer's sig pic was what he was saying could be yours with 20 mg aMT
the picture looks pretty psychedelic

 

Haha, looking at the post again I can see why you thought that.
'All this can be yours...' and the line between the post and sig is almost invisible because of the black edge, very confusing. :tongue:

 

for those kinds of visuals you need 50mg dmt vaporized or 100-200mg dpt insufflated. but that's pretty much where you are.

yeah amt is barely psychedelic at 20mg, which is why its a great intro. it's halfway between mentally "softer" drugs like alcohol and mentally harder drugs like acid.