Why a sanctuary?

haha! (Literally made me laugh out loud!)

 

Glad I could be there for ya.

 

oh, but the stones that hit this thief always are returned to sender
stones thrown on this cloud do not reach my cloud
cast a stone into the sun, to fall back on you
this cloud has the strongest locks
of which this thief cannot pick
but he will remember the stones
for such are Christians made of sticks
as they catapult mud around their feet
when the lion preys
satan's sheep baa one, baa two, baa three
In the name of christ
they baa to the lion
but the lion knows the sheep
for once he was lamb

Thus you do not believe
for god brings those worthy to the son
and those unworthy speak as one
in fear of the lion
butt out a cigarette on my left
butt out a cigarette on my right
throw your stone into my side
but the scars were already there
I feel nothing
For I felt everything
you feel nothing
For you are nothing
And back to nothing is where you will go

In 6 days Adam was made
In 6 days Jesus was made
In 6 days the lion was made

and before them all, the sun was
and after them all, I AM
and before them all, I AM

this is why I have never met a christian who believes
because they are all dogmatic retards
reading words you do not understand
raising a flag in the name of yourselves
spouting words without their meaning
raising ego
turning away the genuine followers
so that they now despise Christ
make his way harder
in the lowest pits will they go
the fake Christians
the fake pope
even Peter is dead to it all
he wears a t-shirt "bad religion"
can you imagine?
This man hates you
Hates religion
and he created it
such as I hate it
and you hate me
but you shout my name
ruin my name

the wind is the breath of the sun
it is holy
and it touches you
but you do not feel it
it speaks to you
but you do not hear it

marriage is not the idea
it never was
man and woman of one flesh
is about you alone
female and male within yourself
soul and spirit
male and female
the four winds
the fifth wind of which is holy
of which only the chosen have

your breath is your spirit
it is of wind
it is pushed by soul
it is where words come

my breath is the Word
for my father is the spirit
from which it came
my word is love
for my word is truth
and when i speak to you
I SPEAK to YOU

But if you do not have the holy spirit
the word made known
you do not hear me
and you do not hear me
for you have no YOU
you walk and talk in soul
but not in spirit
my spirit speaks
and the holy spirit listens

the soul denies
the soul fears
the soul stones
the soul unites with soul
defends and hides
for satan is soul
and the soul is lies

Be careful who you cast stones at

I was here but now I am gone
you will know this to be true in retrospect
by my middle name - George.
Adios

 

Don't want to rain on your parade
But you sound a bit confused
Remember the truth is simple
and is not to be found
in the use of many words

I was here but now I am gone
you will know this to be true in retrospect
by my middle name - Aaron.
La manera de Dios

 

You know the "stone him" comment was made in jest right?
Erm ...nice poetry though? Although I have strong issue with the fact you think all Christians are dogmatic and believe in the Pope. I believe you'll find those categorised under "Roman Catholic" thank you. I am not one. I don't follow any human dogma, because I don't identify to any religion. What does that make me then?

 

You would need to ask the webmaster.

No other threads aside from the religious ones have any hostility towards free inquiry, so no.

I would just consider it weird, kinda like the family who lives in the large spooky farm house on the out skirts of town and raises there own pigs, shit in out houses and generaly never leave there property.

Defend themselves from what?

This is the internet no one can be assaulted on the internet short of sending someone a mail bomb.

Most religions and the three main monotheisms in general all represent a hostility towards free inquiry, this is needed to be ingrained in there followers
if the scam is to hold water.

RELIGION HATES CRITICAL THINKING.

Hope this helped with your question a little!

 

I can see why there's a sanctuary forum, but then again, I don't think its neccesary. But, I've always thought of debate as fun.
I consider myself somewhat of an antitheist, and to me it just seems unneccesary.

 

Things that hinder progress or spread misinformation should be destroyed though.

 

" Yada Yada Yada hostility towards free inquiry. Yada Yada Yada hostility towards free inquiry. Yada Yada Yada scam. Yada Yada Yada RELIGION HATES CRITICAL THINKING."

Are you still still trying to peddle this "stuff"? I mean honestly, you seem to hate free inquiry more than most. If two or more people are involved in free inquiry about Christianity, it seems to be your purpose in life to interrupt it any way you can.

The whole purpose of Sanctuary is to prevent people like you from interrupting free inquiry about Christianity but you do it anyway.

You are allowed all the "free inquiry" you wish in the Christianity forum and you have been allowed to hang out in Sanctuary and engage in "free inquiry", as long as you keep your ranting and raving about the "evils" of Christianity to a minimum, even though you are not a christian as the guidelines say you should be. And you call that "hostility towards free inquiry" and hatred toward "critical thinking", Please.

 

I don't really need to hit it off very well, because I know this forums site is very uneffectual of the main-stream values of the aesthetics and ethics failures of the Occident, but think of Ralph Nader; that;s yadda, worth something. Maybe he's on a British literature and philosophy site?


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I BELIEVE.

 

All ordinary divisions such as Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, Judaism, and further subdivisions such as, catholic, protestant, sunni and shiite, and further subdivisions within each sect of creed etc., are so to speak divisions on one plane.

Besides these divisions there exists divisions of levels, that is there is a Christianity of one level of understanding and feeling and a Christianity of another level of understanding and feeling, beginning with an outward ritual or hypocritical level which passes into the persecution of all heterodox thinking on up to the level of Christ, enlightening all things.

It is important to understand that this first level of understanding is satisfactory to many and it is difficult for them to recognize that they are surrounded by many distortions and perversions that make it impossible for them to receive anything from the outside. Church Christianity has completely distorted the ideas of Christ, but starting from the church form, the "pure in heart", may by feeling and further investigation come to a closer understanding of the original truth.

 

everyone, at least some times, needs a sanctuary of some kind. NOT everyone needs that sanctuary to be christianity though. or any other one organized belief, or even any shared belief at all. although shared beliefs do make good shelters in times of tests and difficulties.

 

Interesting but what you say here does not seem to be addressing the OP of why a Sanctuary.

 

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

 

You just try and take my faith away from me, son. Just try. I'll believe whatever the hell I want no matter how many churches you burn down in the name of "progress."
Religion shouldn't infringe on anyone's personal freedoms. It shouldn't be allowed. It's as simple as that. Nothing makes me more angry than the fact that zealots are allowed to dictate to minorities what they can and can't do, but a witch hunt isn't going to make it right.

 

Sexy, the stuff that dreams are made of. And not only that; the transcendence that can't get transcended. Is God different than you think?

 

This thread is for discussing the sanctuary not quoting biblical scriptures.

Why else would christianity need a sanctuary other than to discuss the bible with like minded people who would not ask critical questions?

Why not one for Sports teams and video games as well?

Excellent synopsis.

What am I trying to sell in your opinion?

Example?, when have I ever showed the type of xenophobia thats rampant through out many of the sanctuary threads, is this just intended to be an insult or just an out right lie?

When I post in the forum they are normally viable questions, aside from the occasional humor I incorporate into them, how do I interrupt you by asking bible questions in the bibles questions thread?

This may come as a surprise to you but not all the questions in the thread are addressed to you or anyone in particular you just seem to be the guy who constantly wants to add his six pence to the conversation.

No the whole purpose of the sanctuary is to have only the least pertinent questions about your religion asked by people who are not comfortable standing up for there beliefs in normal conversation.

Again,you obviously have only partly a clue as to what free inquiry into matters actually means, why is it only the religious threads need a sanctuary while other threads simply take on all questions and opinions no questions asked, what is it that needs to be segregated from the rest of the site thats in the CS thread?

More segregation, xenophobia and yes, hostility to wards free inquiry.

All conveniently placed in the guidelines of the thread.

What would you say is the purpose for a sanctuary if it's not being used as a deterent for questions and opinions othe rthan those of your particular cult?

 

:cheers2:

 

I was just quoting you.

Christianity doesn't need a Sanctuary but it is nice to have. It's nice to have a place to discuss things were the height of "critical thinking" isn't cursing and name calling.

Why not?

It's nice to know that you think I caught the essence of what you were saying.

That all religion is hostile, hateful and a scam.

You have never shown the type of xenophobia that's rampant through out many of the sanctuary threads and that's because if it weren't for your particular type of xenophobia, it would exist in the threads at all.

Interesting, so you feel that saying something like:

Is asking a "viable question" or is it an example of your "occasional humor"?

In that particular thread "Bible questions" anyone is free to answer even me.

This actually makes me feel sorry for you, if you truly feel that attacking other people's beliefs and browbeating them into submission is "normal" conversation.

The Christianity thread has plenty of that kind of "normal" conversation but somehow you feel it necessary to bring that kind of "normal" conversation into Sanctuary, which do even though the guidelines say it doesn't belong there and neither do you.

Obviously you have NO clue what free inquiry means. You seem to believe that inquiry is only free if YOU are free to do what YOU please but the problem is that you don't think of whether that leaves room for others to have free inquiry. What about the very people you mentioned? The ones that don't feel "comfortable standing up for there beliefs in normal conversation", the very ones the you ride rough shod over in your use of "free inquiry". Shouldn't they have a place for free inquiry?

No Christian placed those guidelines there, they are Skip's guidelines and last time I looked Skip is not a Christian and is not even particularly favorable to Christianity, so take it up with Skip, see if he thinks the guidelines are about "segregation, xenophobia and yes, hostility to wards free inquiry".

I'd say that Skip sums it up nicely in the guidelines.

 

But many western religions DO teach against knowledge (remember it was BAD to eat from the tree of knowledge?) asking questions, doubt, or wanting to know more. it tends to tear apart their commandments, rules, beliefs, etc.