seems like these are considered "the next psychedelic step" above things like LSD and mushrooms. which ONE? if you had to pick only one. i'm aware of the differences - i guess as well as i can be without having tried either. so if you've tried both (or even one) tell me what you think. i dislike the idea of snorting 100-200 mg of powder, or injecting for DPT. but i also worry about the technique and special pipe? for DMT. but i'd love to see what's "next" or maybe try DMT on some acid feel free to tell me the differences actually!
Don't worry about dmt and a special pipe as you say, the pipe will cost like $5 and it takes 30 seconds to figure out how to use it.
IMO, snorting DPT is worth it. After a while, you don't really care about the nose anymore. Then again, DMT might "prepare" you for DPT. Nothing will ever truly prepare you for your next psychedelic experience, IMO, but if you've never experienced complete ego death, the DMT experience is shorter.
and this complete ego death...is a complete disconnection from the normal "you"? when you can't tell the diff btwn yourself and the bed? i believe i've had ego dissolution on 2ce and prob acid and shrooms, but never full on ego death how much ketamine to achieve ego death? ugh snorted, again
ketamine does not cause ego death, it just causes blackout. "you" are always there on ketamine, "you" are just majorly fucked up. if you wanna experience ego death grab some 4-aco-dmt and eat a big dose. DMT is much gentler than DPT, its like the difference between sinking into a warm hottub and literally exploding. even so dmt is intensly, intensly intense. this is now a level of things where reading posts on a forum is really not going to help you. its one thing to discuss how not to have a "bad trip" on lsd, but with DxT, you have to go there to understand.
Writer have you experienced ego death on 4 aco dmt? If so what dose? 20 mg didn't even have me close.
4-aco does seem to effect EVERYONE completely differently, I've heard of people completely blacking out on 20mg and others who say 20 mg was nothing.
I have not done it yet. Well, I snorted 3mg this morning to try and get some subtle effects for a family trip, I felt sedation and a bit "opened up", but nothing concrete. I have this day to myself, I might as well eat 30mg and see what's up. But yeah, 4-aco-dmt -> 4-ho-dmt -> om
I did the same thing but not snorted, took a little approx 6 mg (could be WAAAAAY off, never had to work with doses this small) and put it under my tongue, played guitar for 6 hours (I quit playing guitar years ago) it was a fun little pick me up dose, id say it was like being put right into the comedown of a shroom trip at this dose. can't waaaaaaait for my scale
Id been hearing DPT was less intense than DMT, so this is infact otherwise? As someone interested in trying it, how would it compare to DMT?
Thank you. I think Ill most definately be getting some. Im not to worried about ego loss, as this has happened to me on several things, most recently being shrooms which suprised me... I think Ill just take it slow with increasing doses being snorted, and perhaps eventually try freebase. "DPT has more of a "push" to it as well perhaps, DMT feels like you're sort of falling into the experience, like youre gently dissolving, while dpt feels like youre being deconstructed at the molecular level by a billion nuclear-powered nanobots. " Would you call it scary by any means? Im experience with DMT, and salvia, and it doesnt bother me, it just makes it unenjoyable when its overwhelmingly so.... Im sorry if I sound foolish,
you should read some dpt trip reports. unimaginable terror is often present in novice dpters (teehee)
Once you get to that peak though.. even if you were previously having a "bad experience", the complete ego death takes care of that. IMO anyways. Speaking of DPT, I've been considering trying a 300mg dose lately. I'm pretty sure that once the peak of a dose like that has been reached, there is no such thing as good or bad, no matter what.
SERIOUSLY...i've dosed it twice in the 2 weeks i've had it, and i love it. next dose is going to be 25mg nasal.
