David Bowie, original rip off artist!

David Bowie is the original rip off artist stealing such look's and styles of music from the likes of Syd Barrett, The Velvet Underground, The Stooges, The New York Dolls, and of course Andy Warhols films.

 

So what, at least he made something new out of it.

 

Like what a rehash copy of a failed attempt as a folkie or an even worse interpretation of what The New York Dolls were doing before he met them. I'll admit Mick Ronson's a beast though.

 

I'm not a fan of Bowie but even I can see he's much more than a rip off artist, so why accuse him of stealing while almost every band borrows in some way on the things before them. I mean, do you view Led Zeppelin as the original rip off band as well then?

 

bowie in labyrinth FOR THE WIN!

 

Don't get me wrong man Led Zep's a pretty good band for their diversity but if it was 1969 at this moment and their debut came out as well as The MC5's and The Stooges, I would rather listen to those bands from that side of the tracks (Detroit) and see them instead. Plus, how are they the "Original" as you call them, for what I see they just happened to have a new kind of crowd willing to dive into what they were trying at that moment because it was yet another close to a wonderful decade. If anything they took people away from what everybody was going during that particular era as well as Black Sabbath to say the least.

Anyways that was completely off the original topic, I see Bowie as a cultural vampire a good singer/songwriter type, but not one to come up with an all new genre of his own which he envisioned so he took what he could from what was going on around him, and therefore made it his own. Without the Dolls, The Stooges, and everyone in America he would have never had the guts to go ahead with Ziggy Stardust. Besides, didn't you say unless I'm wrong than please correct me that you are "not" a fan of one such David Bowie, if so than how are you to criticize me on nothing you clearly know nothing of, unless you happen to familiar with this work, so sorry if I'm rude, but please enlighten me..

 

Led Zep plagiarised a whole bunch of early 20th century blues artists. So did The Doors.

Few artists, in fact, are truly original. Most borrow something from someone else's style.

Oh, and Bowie fucking kicks ass!

 

I see Bowie as a very good artist all along (esp in his Spiders from Mars period!!), but the literally went DOWNHILL with that CRAPPY tune called Let's Dance......"shudder to think"...you could have done much better Mr. Bowie!

 

most, if not all artists rip each other off...the pc way of saying it though is called "inspired by"

 

Uhm, it's a pretty good comparison when it comes to rip off artists. I don't see why it matters if they and Sabbath took people away from what everybody was doing (if they already were). Zeppelin is the typical example of recycling a style by 'stealing' songs and tunes, change them a bit and still make it sound good.

You don't have to be a fan to be familiar with David Bowie's music, so I don't see why it's so clear I know nothing of this?
You don't have to start something new like a genre or style to make good music, and yes like Maryblaze said everybody is 'inspired by' other artists. Sometimes it can be heard easier in the music than with other artists but if it's good it's just good music. I see it doesn't work like that for you though.

 

disagree...people can be influenced by anyone..so if your trolling to pounce on a bowie fan then come and get me....who the fuck 'influenced' syd and andy....oh i guess when they do it you call it original thought,right?I couldnt give 2 shits if you do or dont like a particular artist but ts not always a rip off

 

Nah, there have been plagiarists long before Bowie.

But yeah, he does totally blow.

No one here said it was always a rip off. In Bowie's case, I would definitely say it is. The way I see it, Bowie stole a whole bunch of different specific core stylings, to build up his "eclectic sound".
Have you ever heard a style parody? It's not a parody of a specific song by a band, it's a parody in the specific styling of the band. When done right, not only can you tell what band it is clearly, but you can even almost hear parts of their songs.

However, with influence, it's the exact opposite. Not only should you not be able to tell what songs were going through their head when they wrote it, you should definitely not be able to pull out specific bands that you can basically hear. At the very least - doing this means you are a shit 'artist', at the very most, it means you ripped them the fuck off.


As Bowie's career went on, he got more original - but his music just got worse and worse.

 

He does. Ask Mick Jagger.

:smilielol5:

 

very good point,your opinion is worth noting[Dale Carnegie]....so i guess i wont be seeing you at any bowie shows

so few people give a crap that some dude can proove that bowie stole what the fuck from who gives a crap...i have better things to do than listen for mirrored riffs and compare make-up on 30 year old lps...i let you guys do it and then learn from what i read and i dont know why i am compelled to defend bowie but i saw him with ronson and spiders in toronto when i was a kid[4 total] and i gotta say the show was very good and i had a great time

 

Ah, I've never really liked him - just a song or two here or there (and those were mostly the ones I feel are ripped =P), however, from the live clips I've seen, the guy definitely knows how to do a show.

 

Alright,who did Led Zep rip off?

 

Listen to this.

 

Now I want ROLLING and whoever else was defending Bowie to note how very different Zep sounds from anything on this cd. (You can listen to previews here)
That's influence.

Now this song written by Bowie sounds just like a popular band of the 60s named after a certain bug - rip off.

 

I think the reason Led Zeppelin sound so different from many of their blues 'influences' is largely because many of the songs were written and recorded many decades before Led Zeppelin plagiarised them, the difference is mostly down to the recording equipment and instruments available during each ear of music.

If you listen to that led zep album, many of the songs are almost identical, lyric for lyric, and some of them are practically cover versions.