44 Days into veg, should I flower? Help me!

Discussion in 'Marijuana Growing' started by Madd Hatter, Nov 5, 2004.

  1. Madd Hatter

    Madd Hatter Member

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    Ok, I'm going to try to attach a pic from Day 44 of veg. Most are 16" tall and they're still going (You can see a couple runts in the pic, I'm not worried about them). They're in about 2.5-2.7 gals of soil under 400 watts. The plan was to veg for 60 days, but I'm worried about light penetration and them becoming rootbound. I have no larger pots to transplant into, they were transplanted into these pots a couple weeks ago.

    Half of them have alternating nodes. I don't know how many (if any) are females, I haven't flowered and reverted, this has been 45 days of straight veg.
    I see things that look like pistils on pretty much every plant, are these calyx's (sp?)? I know I don't have 8 females, so I doubt they're really pistils. But on a couple of the plants, these things are white? I tried to get pics, but my dig camera blows and can't get that kind of close up detail.

    Anyway, someone please help me on whether I should go into flower this weekend, I want the most yield possible, but I don't want to F up the crop and get nothing. Oh, and hell, while I'm posting, what kind of yield might I get out of 4 of these if I flowered now?
     
  2. meangreen

    meangreen Senior Member

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    6 weeks is plenty for veg,there should be no yield loss.After cure if your doing well you get .5 grams per watt of light.Keep a eye on those preflowers,a pistle growing out of the top center are your females and if the calyx developes a stem on them(like a lollipop) or the calyx appears claw shaped then there males.



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  3. Madd Hatter

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    I put them into flower on Monday, after 24 hrs of darkness on Sunday...

    2nd day in, and when I set foot in the door tonight, I could smell them, across the house and down the stairs. So now I'm paranoid about that. I'll need to burn candles when the plumber comes, and hope the smell doesn't permeate thru the wall (I live in a bi-attached). I saw a thread about Walmart selling carbon scrubbers?!

    5 of the plants are at or within two inches of two feet tall. Another four are between 13 and 16 inches. Again, these are B52, NL, and one Durban (16") under a 400HPS. Should I tie down the taller ones? I'm at 40% of my vertical space right now so I have that to consider plus light penetration. Hell, if I tie them down I'll have to tie to a pot 3 spaces over, they're that tall over their pots. I've gone from praying for females to hoping for a few males, because I think I'll have a canopy impossible to keep lit. I want to buy some wrapping paper (polywrap), and put some of it around the plants, will that make a noticeable difference? Will Walmart have that kind?

    Maybe I'll do that this weekend and I'll post pics as well.
    RH after being 50-60% the first few weeks has been hanging at 80% lately, not sure WTF that's about. At what time do I need to get concerned with getting it down to 40? God I don't want to buy a dehumidifier.
     
  4. meangreen

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    Odor is a good way to get busted,get a charcoal filter and not from Wal-mart.They work very well in containing odors.Keep in mind plants will rarely more then double in highth from ther size once flower is induced.Watch your local news as your RH will be what or close to is outside,increasing with storm fronts.Keep air moving as mold can be a issue in flower with high humidity.If you fear ceiling highth then break the stem at the half way point/lay over and support,within a week there they will form a knuckle at the break and be able to support them selves as well as create more tops by allowing axial limbs to grow into a even canopy.Fear not breaking as has been done many times with no significant set backs.
     
  5. Madd Hatter

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    Thanks for the replies meangreen, I wish more people would.

    At first I didn't think I could trust myself, but now I think on the 6th flowering day, 4 males out of 9 plants have shown themselves. But the net can be my backup....First 3 pics are what I called male, next couple are what I call female. I didn't see any hermies, I hope that remains the case.

    That's the best I could hope for, but still kind of a bummer. When do I need to make sure I kill my males? At this stage is there anything I can do with them? Will they even make cannabutter?

    Next question: I'm going to leave the bedroom door open when the lights are on to keep the RH down around 50. But I have to close it when the light's off or I'll have light coming in. Over those 12 hours, the humidity will climb back up to 70%. Is that going to mean mold down the road?

    I'm considering ordering mylar or trying to find some (or polywrap wrapping paper) and put around the plants, think I need to? Any other tips on what to do from here?

    As I get more paranoid about having a crappy yield, I'm thinking more about propagation, and I think I've decided to go thru with harvest and then reveg, mainly because I don't have another light setup for clones. But COULD I clone in the next few days? Down the road, could I replant in my formerly-male pots, or are the roots and crap in the soil going to make it worthless and I should use all new soil?
     
  6. meangreen

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    the 2 top pics are male as well as the second one down from top on the left.If you have no breeding use for then get rid of asap.They will not be worth the time to use for any purpose as they have not matured in flower to have any value.Get a dehumidifier,not worth finding out about mold the hard way,really will not have mold potential till your weeks into flower.I do not follow your idea of wrapping the plants?Confined areas benifit from reflective material like mylar but otherwise a waste of $ in my opinion.If money is not a issue get yourself a Tek-light T5 high output fluorescent system with mixed spectrum bulbs and get some beans/clones going under it 3-4 weeks prior to present finishing and transfer in under hps.Clones are best taken from plants that have been sexed as to know what the outcome is,the longer you wait in flower the longer it takes for them to develop roots.Re-veging can take upwards of 4 weeks for the plant to resume normal veg growth once 18/6 is initiated,all has bearing on how photo responsive the plants are.Peace
     
  7. Madd Hatter

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    I pulled the males today, here you can see each one before I killed it. If someone wants to assure me I didn't kill a female going off these and the pics in the above post, that'd be great.

    The top one is the Durban, with an extreme closeup as well. Looks like a frickin bud! At the bottom you see what I have left. I have a few more inches above the pic here to pull the light, I don't know if I need to tie over or not.

    I'm also hoping to track down some polywrap/emergency blankets at Target today, and failing that I may order some Mylar off eBay. meangreen, I'm referring to just enclosing the plants with cardboard wrapped with polywrap or something to increase reflectivity. I'm worried I have too much space from light to bottom of plants, or will pretty soon.
     

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