How do you know God is real?

inthydreams911 - I like your answer.

Thanks guys. I do believe there is some thing that makes things in our universe and delicate and intricate as it is. Whether that thing is looking out for my best interests, I don't know. I sure hope it is.

 

LMAO

Just like a true Christian, you bash someone for not seeing what you think you see.

 

Just like a true fool, you bash someone just because you don't understand what is being said.

 

You put your faith into a pagan religion.

But I'm the fool?

 

What do you mean by "know"? I believe in God, defined as a presence "in which we live and move and have our being". I don't think my belief is contrary to science, and I don't see how it's negated by other religions or the situation in this world. To me, belief in a Higher Power is a useful working hypothesis, supported by substantial evidence, bringing together converging data from a variety of sources, including reason, intuition, and personal experience--specifically: (1) the anthropic principle, or "fine tuning" of the universe; (2) the mystery of life; (3) the phenomenon of human consciousness; (4) common coincidences of everyday life that seem "uncanny"; and (5) personal religious experiences involving strong intuition of a spiritual presence. I know that naturalistic explanations could be given for each of these. Like physicist Paul Davies, I think the God hypothesis satisfies the principle of Occam's razor, the simplest or most parsimonious explanation of these phenomena. But I could be wrong. That's why I conceptualize my beliefs as faith, defined by Martin Luther as a "joyful bet".

 

No, I don't and yes you are. (Proverbs 18:13)

 

Proof is not needed, just like you do not need to know what God exactly is. It's all about believing or perhaps faith. Perhaps some individuals have proof for it's existence in their own way, but it is never about proof. It's also not about what God is, that's more a science issue to me. It's about believing there is a God. It sounds only fair to me you don't tell other people what God is if you don't have proof for it God is beyond comprehension, don't define him as if it were facts.
And of course, just to state the obvious again: religion and God are two entirely different things!

 

Yah dude you gotta stop Christian bashing. It's obvious that you just have this anti-Christian/ignorance / faith flag waivin over your head. You're not hearin what Oldwater is sayin. Plus Christianity ain't a "Pagan religion", sure it takes influences from it but if you really knew those influences I bet you wouldn't be saying "Pagan" in a derogatory sense.

There ya go brotha.

 

Makes the most sense to me of that post. Interestingly put!

 

faith is basicly beleiving ins omething which you cannot proof is real...
you gotta have faith...all will be answerd at the end...

btw god can't help if people starve/die e.g because god does not mess with free will, god gave us free will (which is what seperates us from the animals, and our body structure is this way because god made adam and eve in the form that god has)

i am not preaching am just telling you how i see the christian faith and god...

 

I don't need to stop shit

I respect Okie and any other Christian who thinks for themselves at least somewhat

It's these Bible quotin praise Jesus fools that I make fun of

I just can't believe this old ass man really blindly follows the Bible

Black Christians in America was introduced to that shit thru slavery that's why I find this shit so humorous

Y'all don't like the shit I say, ban me

I don't come to this shit that often anyway

Other than that, I've already lost the little bit of respect I had for Christianity in itself (not necessarily every single follower) when I found out the story of Jesus Christ wasn't even based on a real person. You would think I'd have known better being that there are hundreds of different pictures of him but I gave it a chance anyway.

That shit sad people don't even take the time out to research the origins of their own beliefs. Just either believe some shit because it sounds nice or because they were scared/brainwashed into believing it.

 

You've been watching Youtube again haven't you?

In any case, you come on like you have any idea what I believe but yet your comments reveal an ignorance of what I believe. For instance, name one thing about what I believe that is pagan, seeing as that is what you said I believe.

Also the fact that there hundreds of different pictures of Jesus Christ does not prove that Jesus isn't a real person, it just proves that no one knows what Jesus looked like seeing as there are no physical descriptions of him from those who knew him when he was on Earth. So any "picture" of him would only be a guess on the part of the one making it.

As for "Black Christians in America was introduced to that shit thru slavery that's why I find this shit so humorous", there are many Black Christians in America that were not introduced to Christianity through slavery, not theirs or their ancestors and by the way the "Christianity" that Blacks were introduced to through slavery was probably not true Christianity anyway.

PS Saying "shit" every other word tends to make you sound illiterate.

 

The story of "Jesus Christ" was derived from ancient civilizations' worship of their sun God.

I can provide more proof of that than you can provide proof Jesus actually lived.

And LMAO, the fuck I care about how "illiterate" I sound to you?

You the one who believe in a devil and Noah's ark among many other things that makes no sense to ANYONE outside your religion, you are in NO position to be questioning anyone's intelligence.

And black Americans were introduced to Christianity thru slavery. No one came from Africa and said "accept Jesus as your lord and savior." The Europeans brought that shit over here with them and their slaves got the hand me down version of it. Every last one of us that can trace our roots to the south are all descendants of slaves. And even the ones who aren't did not bring Christianity with them from Africa. The shit was spread around the world by European colonists.

That shit sad you don't know this simple fact about your own religion.

Btw, Youtube is not my Source but there is 1000x more intelligence to be found on it than in your bible.

 

Here's a thought -- We have two choices - Either God - who has always been - created all things -- or -- All elements came from nothing. An absolute nothing - no light, no hot, no cold, no up, no down, no gas, no matter with no beginning and no end.

Let's see - I look around at all the beauty and I think I'll choose God. But to each his own. Peace & Love

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Miltiades

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Victor_I

Black African Popes. When Islam conquered North Africa, the chance for a Black Pope was largely eliminated until recent times.

 

No, it wasn't.

No, you can't.

If you like sounding illiterate, great, go right ahead but it does tend to discredit the points you want to get across and I thought you might like to know.

Did I question your intelligence? I don't believe I did but your saying so tends to call your intelligence in into question.

As for the Devil and Noah's ark, yes I do believe in them, is your God too puny to have accomplished Noah's ark?

Please get off this Slave this and Slave that stuff.

For one thing, I know many Black Americans that immigrated to the US and were never slaves nor were their ancestors slaves and they learned Christianity while in Africa. I also know many Native Black Americans that were never slaves and didn't become Christians till recently and so were never "introduced" to Christianity through slavery.

Also as was pointed out, Christianity was spread first by Jews not Europeans and only later after Christianity had been spread pretty far and that would include Africa, did Europeans get involved.

It sad that you have been mislead into believing this falsehood.

If you really believe this, I just feel sorry for you.

 

Haha, owned! Never knew this by the way, but yeah I don't know most popes Probably didn't matter around that time. Ah, how nice to know

 

Pope?

Oh you talking about that guy who represents Catholicism while wearing a Jewish yamaka?

Oh ok.

Christianity was spread by Jews?

Wow, you're even dumber than I thought.

The fact you don't see the correlation between calling someone illiterate and questioning their intelligence pretty much confirmed that.

And get off this my God vs your God shit, you a damn senior citizen debating like a 15 year old.

Far as "my God" being too "puny" to accomplish something like Noah's Ark...

Um, last time I checked, the Bible says God needed a person to build the ark and had to wait 100 years for him to do so. That doesn't sound like an all powerful God to me.

Amazing how you defend beliefs and conclusions you didn't even come to on your own.

No wonder we don't get along, I don't respect followers.

And what in the FUCK is a "Native Black American"?

 

All of Jesus' disciples were Jews, not a European among them and they were the original spreaders of Christianity. Which means; "Wow, you're even dumber than I thought."

The fact that your reading comprehension seems so low that you can't understand the difference between my saying that your constant use of the word "shit" makes you look illiterate and not actually saying you're illiterate does seem to call in to question your intelligence.

Just trying to use a language I thought you'd understand, seeing as it's about the age of 15 that a person thinks they can prove themselves to be grownup by cursing.

And here I thought you said the task was impossible for Noah to do. God didn't need Noah to help him but let Noah help just like a father would let his children help him. God could have easily and quickly done it by himself but accomplished a miracle though Noah.

Thanks

I feel sorry for you, that makes you very limited in what you do or say or you don't respect your self, because all most every thing you do or say has been done or said and that leaves very few things for you to do that doesn't make you a follower.

Anyone born in a country, especially if their ancestors were also born in that country is considered to be native to that country.

 

LMAO I'm limited because I don't follow other people?

You don't have a relationship with God, you have one with the bible. Prolly say amen at the end of your prayers too. Just blindly doing shit without even knowing why you do it. All you know is someone else told you it's right and you believed it.

You don't need to feel sorry for anyone but yourself.