Desexualizing Nudity

Lately I've been wondering about desexualizing nudity. Is it even possible?

When I have children I'd love for them to think of their birthday suit just the same as any other suit. If it's the most appropriate option for a situation then take it. I'd love for them to grow up without ever thinking that nudity=sex but I see it as being probably me against the world. In TV, movies, music videos and for the vast majority of their peers nudity does equal sex.

I guess I'll have to teach them that this is the way most people think. That they have to be extremely careful where, when and with whom they are naked as it may very well be taken as an advance though they don't intend it to be. The fact is most people are uncomfortable with nudity - not only their own but other people's.

When my kids have friends over will the friend go home and tell their parents that we walk around naked? How does that make me look? Everyone will assume I'm a pedo - since men are always victimized in these situations. I just don't think it's worth it.

 

It seems to be achieved in Germany and the Netherlands and in Scandanavian countries.

 

It is a matter of finding compromise. I spend the better parter of my life naked. I keep something near the door to slip on if I have to answer it and then I don't embarrass anyone. My nephew has grown up around me being naked and is a great kid. Completely unembarrassed by it. If he is bringing friends around then he gives me a call and I slip something on.
There are easy solutions to all of this.

 

Nudity doesn't need to be desexualized any more than Harris tweed needs to be desexualized. It just needs not to be sexualized in the first place. Most people are fetishists about exposed flesh, and that fetish is acquired through experience and cultural osmosis.

As for having other people's kids over, don't be nude in the house unless the parents of the other kids know and approve before the kids come over.

 

But it has been sexualized in American (and by extension Western) culture and kids will pick that up.

It's not me I'm concerned for as I know when nudity is acceptable and when it's not. I'm concerned the kids might disrobe innocently but inappropriately. Then there's the danger that they might say something incriminating at school or somewhere.

 

Most people are born with an understanding that they should probably go along and do whatever most people around them are doing. If you wonder about it, go visit a family-oriented nudist resort and talk to some parents.

 

This is interesting and I don't know if there is a double standard for guys but it reminded me of when I was a kid I used to spend weekends at my mom's friends house who had two girls I played with and was a single mother. She was kind of a hippie type but not a nudist and nor were my parents but I remember we kids always used to play in her backyard without our clothes on up until my friend Madison and I were about 7 and her older sister was about 12, it just felt really natural at the time and nobody seemed to care.. It didn't really dawn on me as unusual until years later but it always seemed to be the norm with her group of organic rice cake loving girl friends but I wonder if it would be handled differently or frowned upon if it were her father or if their were males present at all with the assumptious that they could be perverts or pedophiles.

 

Not possible.

Referring to European "achievements" is silly in this case. Europeans don't "desexualize" nudity, they cultivate a culture of all-permissiveness that leads to decay of morals and society at large.

I also wish to pose this question to you: why must this issue involve children? Why are children even brought up in this context? Is there perhaps something that the original poster doesn't tell us?

 

Case and point. I'm being accused just for talking about it!

I'm neither a father nor a pedophile. Just someone who wishes his own parents had been less uptight about nudity. I didn't realize how merciless people are on the topic when someone starts mentioning children and nudity in the same sentence. My parents were probably right to make nudity taboo, it's not worth the risk. No matter how normal I think it is (or should be) it only takes one person to accuse you of something untoward and your children could be taken away.

Forget it, I can't be bothered anymore.

 

Oh really nice going! That is just ridiculous. Accusing OP of anything is beyond the pale. I'm disgusted with this post.
In fact if you have any decency you will post an apology.

 

Only if you get everyone to do it, as long as its a fringe thing, never going to happen

 

Excellent post, Jen! Absolutely right.

 

I agree with whoever it was that said it doesn't need desexualized, it needs not sexualized.

I am a bit of a voyuer, and a big porn junkie, but I've never learned to sexualize nudity in real life. My mom bathed my sister and me together, and I was a very conscious 3 year old, and still have vivid memory from early age. Nudity comes naturally for me.

Where the real attraction comes in, is with girls I already find sexually attractive, and really, it's less because I am turned on by seeing them naked. It's more that I am turned on by getting to see them naked. If people were always naked, nudity would've never gained such an appeal to me, and hell, maybe I wouldn't even be a porn addict (though I wouldn't necessarily count on that one) =P

 

Nudity is probably always going to be that way. It's because we're too ashamed of the human body, we have to keep ourselves hidden constantly. Naked women = sex to my mind just like any other red blooded male, lol.

 

Splitting hairs is such fun, isn't it?

On the subject of child abuse and pedophilia: considering how much the subject has come to light in recent years, one simply cannot be too careful. Reasonable people can agree that mentioning minors in any situation that can be considered even remotely sexual is just something that is not done.

If you bring it up, you invite the discussion of your motives. What can be legal (though not necessarily moral) when perpetrated behind closed doors between consenting adults, takes on a very sinister tint when children are involved.

The tint is even more sinister when someone speaking about it does not have children of their own. Think about that.

 

Not having any clothes on....The Sinister Tint
I can see a horror film or book title right there:smilielol5:

 

I'm beginning to think you're an alias of the OP. You're just as asininely uptight as he is creepy.

 

I really don't see what's so creepy about OP, and OP, I think these people have given you a rough answer of just how much trouble you could run into following such doctrines.
There's nothing wrong with clothes, just as there's nothing wrong with nudity - so just teach the kids when to button up and not to run their mouths =P

 

Stop making sense on the internets!

You'll fuck up the works and some poor, confused porn junkie will end up accidentally dividing by zero.

 

Read the works of nineteenth century anthropologists who wrote about the lives of aboriginal people of Australia, Papua New Guinea and etc.
Apparently, even total nudity wouldn't be perceived as sexually arousing in context of daily social and casual intermingling if this was the way entire society got accustomed to be.

Who knows, may be one of the reasons why clothing ,as we know it, was invented in the first place was to make people get obsessed with sex and itch with desire while imagining what is hiding beneath it
(This concept is widely known & used in marketing and advertisement industry).

Don't you notice how little do you care about hundreds of almost naked bodies of women when you see them at the beach. compared to your reaction of encountering just one long legged hot girl wearing a mini-skirt and a t-shirt in the middle of the uptightly dressed town people?

So, to answer your question, it's very possible to precondition individuals to perceive nudity as something ordinary, casual and not sexually arousing in the context of routine, daily social interaction.
Just as it is possible to precondition them to equate it with sex.