Can i get the magic faster?..

Discussion in 'MDMA - X' started by armed_with_a_mind, Aug 6, 2009.

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  1. armed_with_a_mind

    armed_with_a_mind Member

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    yeah hopefully not, but it seems like my mind is working just fine :D


    i waited almost 3 weeks and still the same results the come up and then a quick crash :(
     
  2. PhearHendrix

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    everyone on here that says 3-4 times A YEAR, i ahve to STONGLY disagree.
    My part of NY, there are tons of people doing E every day, every week, every month. and they all hold big time jobs. i know people who touch a lot of money everyday, and still roll on a constant basis. and NO ONE that i know, had any perm damage, or anything.


    after searching for a bit, i found no conclusive evidence that E is bad for you.
     
  3. CherokeeMist

    CherokeeMist Senior Member

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    ok well i guess we have our answer then.

    OP, just keep popping 'em. you'll get it back eventually.

    :rolleyes:
     
  4. Omacatl

    Omacatl Senior Member

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    there is evidence that you are changing your brain. the only thing missing is the definitive understanding of what the extent of the changes are how they effect behavior or moods, and the implications they have on a persons cognitive functioning. in some cases the degree of changes could definitely be described as neurotoxic. you are dealing with an amphetamine here... the chemical cousins like meth are known to be neurotoxic when used daily.
    every day, you are really asking for trouble. just because these people arent effected now doesn't mean there will be consequences down the line. its dangerous to assume MDMA use with any regularity doesn't carry consequences. just because the jury is out on definitive proof of what is considered damage doesn't make it safe. it makes it unfucking predictable. dont you get it? there's no way to tell down the line how this is going to fuck with your brain. it could be terrible for people who use daily/weekly.

    it's causing specific changes in your brain every time you use it. we already know that MDMA use causes depression afterwards because of a phenomena called "downregulation". the receptors get used in such a way that they are permanently reduced in number and their functioning is never the same. get educated and read these links.

    http://www.maps.org/news/neurotoxfaq.html
    http://www.dancesafe.org/slideshow/intro.html
     
  5. PhearHendrix

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  6. CherokeeMist

    CherokeeMist Senior Member

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    well when someone is having an issue and comes to ask for opinions, they clearly aren't "enjoying the powers and mysteries to the fullest"... in fact they're being prevented because something's getting in the way (in this case it is possibly the use of E)

    it's just ridiculous to even suggest that daily use of MDMA is okay just because you haven't seen anyone you know develop any problems yet. the fact that we don't understand this phenomenon fully is all the more reason to be careful with how we treat MDMA.
     
  7. PhearHendrix

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    i did NOT suggest daily use....even I....think thats jsut stupid
     
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  9. Omacatl

    Omacatl Senior Member

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    because what little research is there is enough to know that there is a risk of neurotoxicity, not to mention oxidative stress. the only thing left to find out is what degree of use causes what changes and to what extent said changes damage can be labeled. you are saying that because we don't know the absolute full extent of the damage it's ok to keep using? that logic is severely flawed especially in the face of current studies that say this IS neurotoxic at a certain dose/frequency of doses. if you had the slightest regard for your well being you would at least take caution in using frequently. if you had a moderate regard for your well being you wouldn't use AT ALL.

    downregulation is going to cause depression in any person. you simply don't absorb serotonin in receptors like you used to. yes the subjective psychological effects are different for every person but the physiological effect is going to be the same. if you don't reuptake as much serotonin, your mood is going to be altered. in some cases severely.

    i used to not be able to handle it. i used to not be able to handle the fact that something i used with regularity was harmful. i prided myself on using only drugs that were beneficial and i considered MDMA very much so. i was in such denial and would argue with folks that the jury was still out, it may not be so bad. but then i decided to do research and take an objective look at this and it is my conclusion that its not worth the risk. i couldn't handle living 20 years from now and suffering from some kind of deficit or neurological disorder and having to blame it on youthful idiocy. i couldn't handle saying that i regret my past MDMA use because it has negatively effected my future. maybe you can, maybe you could be ok with that.

    the news or info isn't meant to scare it's meant to inform. those links i provided are from MAPS and Dancesafe. they aren't news media or government links, they are informed groups with some of the best unbiased info out there. MAPS is currently trying to get MDMA legalized for therapeutic use. no one is trying to scare you or stop you from enjoying life to the fullest. im just trying to get you to reconsider what is to me a very immature and ill-informed perspective. i can recognize such a perspective easily because it used to be mine.
     
  10. armed_with_a_mind

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    ye!:D
     
  11. PhearHendrix

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    Its amazing how these are free speech boards, but yet, when i talk freely, i get shot down in every direction.

    and "armed with a mind"..i think i love you

    we should roll sometime :p
     
  12. armed_with_a_mind

    armed_with_a_mind Member

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    hahaha down:D
     
  13. CherokeeMist

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    i think you misunderstood the term "free speech"

    it doesn't protect you from being wrong...
     
  14. Mr.Writer

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    yeah lol. you have free speech and are exercizing it, and we have free speech and are exercizing it to retort your free speech :)

    MDMA is probably the harshest drug i have ever done, period. It is NOT gentle on the brain, at all.
     
  15. PhearHendrix

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    true about the free speech..
    and im not wrong. its my opinion. how can my opinion be wrong? it cant. its what i choose to do

    Granted since my parents found 2 stars in my draw, i havent rolled in 2 weeks. but once im over this and out of my house, on my own, im gonna roll. and roll till the end of time
     
  16. Omacatl

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    you're entitled to believe whatever you want. at the end of the day though facts are facts. i've presented enough information for any reasonable person to make an informed conclusion. you cant feign ignorance anymore because now you know that MDMA is changing your brain. i do not believe i have attacked you personally or endangered your right to speak freely. if you feel that way i apologize. my tone can be condescending at times.

    trust me. once you get out of mommy and daddy's your priorities will change up a bit. and you will either roll until the end of time or until the rolls don't work on you anymore because you have crisped your serotonin axon terminals like a burnt pork cracklin. :piggy:
     
  17. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    Yay for addiction!


    :party:




    mmmmmmmmmm cracklin
     
  18. Mr.Writer

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    cross your fingers and hope that when you're an old man they have better medication than SSRIs for depression, because boy you're gonna need a miracle.
     
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