We need to cut Israel loose

I support it, as I want all the jews to return to Israel, so the antichrist can do his thing, which is good I'm told.

 

Well I am sure as hell not a Jew hater.

I feel sorry for them.

They are surrounded with people who hate them and want to kill them.

Fucking loonies with bombs strapped to them.

People who think nothing of killing innocent children and bystanders.

Apparently gods chosen people sure picked one hell of a "Promised Land".

But I really admire the intelligence of most Jews I have met.

 

I don't hate them either. I just haven't been a practicing one in a long time because I think religion is silly. Israel as a nation deserves to exist but not at the expense of a portion of its citizenry. Whether or not that portion poses an internal threat seems to be their issue. Exterminating them is not the answer. And supporting that extermination is unconscienable.

 

Yes, and the Jews were put there and are manipulated by people who also call themselves "Jews," but couldn't give a shit less about the average Jew or person living in Israel, who, again, are being used as sitting ducks for an agenda they have no clue about. They have swallowed the lie that they're "God's chosen people," and therefore are entitled to the land based on some fairly tale called the Old Testament.

But are the loonies with bombs strapped to them really any worse than the loonies that actually have air power and deliberately attack schools and hospitals full of women and children? I would say THAT'S loony. You always hear about the plight of the Jews in the media, but never the plight of the Palestinians. The Jews are doing to the Arabs exactly what Hitler did to the Jews.

 

Jews rule. The only reason the world has always hated them is because they have always made themselves. They made themselves wealthy, they have always done everything for themselves. That's the most respectable fuckin thing anyone could ever do for themselves. Cowards and losers have always had a thing out for them for as long as anyone can remeber only because they were jealous or angry at them for getting their own shit together. Anyone who hates Jews is only lying to themselves, they don't hate jews, they hate themselves for being the sad, piece of shit that they are, and they're jealous. Also they have really cool tradtitions that they've managed to hang on to for the past few millennium with bastardizing them. You gotta admire that if nothing else. They maintain their culture and are proud of it. People should respect this, not hate it.

 

I completely agree. :cheers2:

 

Well, you're my little sister. Of course you do.

 

I don't know if I agree with that. I am not going to put them on a pedestal, because that is already what's happening. Jews are people just like non-Jews. I see no reason to either hate or love someone based on their religion or race (though I do not consider Judaism to be a race). There are good reasons why people are mad at the Jews, but their hate is misdirected because it has nothing to do with a people, but rather an ideology.

 

I do realize there is always other ways of looking at things.

I sure as hell do not have the answers.

What I was saying is it is easy to criticise. But if the shit that is happening in Israel started happening in the USA, it would be a police state.

I am a Citizen of the USA and it horrifies me what our own government is doing.

I have never been to Israel. So there is no way for me to know what happens on the street every day there.

 

Well said and very true.And the same goes for haters of Israel.

 

That's fine, you dont have to put them on a pedestal. I was not trying to do that. I was just stating why I believe people hate jews. And always have hated jews. Yes, they are just people too. But people have always chosen to segregate them for reasons usually not defined by the hater. I'm not praising them, just stating why I think they've been hated. I personally feel they should be respected (not any more than anyone else, but more than they are in certain areas of the world right now) and that's all I was trying to get across. Yes Jews are people just like everyone else, but they have experienced hate only a select number of other groups of people have endured, and that's why I said what I said.

 

The same can be said for any one person, or any groups of people who have experienced unprovoked hate.

 

Why are you such a staunch defender of Israel? I doubt you hardly even know anything about its history, like most people in America who blindly defend it because the people on FOX News say they must. There is nothing wrong with being critical of Israel, especially if you are informed and know some of the things Israel has done.

 

This is not about hating anybody, it's about our place in the world, and that place is taking care of this country first, The money we send them and anybody else could be put to better use in this country.. Who sends us money ??

Peace

 

Yeah, but that's not really true, There are multitudes of races, ethnicities and religions that have been the targets of hate. It's the media that leads people to believe that the Jews are the ultimate victims when they're not.

 

Hate the people who run the country and the people who start the wars. But don't hate the people who live there or the country itself. I've actually been to Israel and it's a fuckin beautiful country, and the people there are the nicest, most interesting people. It's sad to see what comes out of there, war wise, but that is not the feelings or consensus of the people as a whole. Those are the actions of the people who run it. And the EXACT same things can be said about any single country around the globe. The US has beautiful places within it and great people. But it comes off as being the most arrogant, warmongering, hateful country. But that is only the actions of those who run it, and the citizens who choose to drink the punch.

 

Yes, and although I have singled them out, I acknowledged that there has been others.

"It's the media that leads people to believe that the Jews are the ultimate victims when they're not."

I'd say being hated for a few millennia then having 6 million of your people brutally, inhumainly murdered makes you a pretty fuckin big victim.

 

Because I'm very familiar with its history.I've also been there myself, it's a beautiful peaceful country with great people.It's the only country that gets bashed for 'defending' themselves.--I don't go by what the Israel hating American media broadcasts.And I do not view Faux snooze.

 

So was Israel just defending themselves when they attacked the USS Liberty in 1967 -- an attack which lasted 75 minutes, despite the American flag being clearly visible on the ship?

 

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