microdosing, how much ,, for how long

Hi,

So i have aquired a sheet of blotters which i want to use for microdosing - now im wondering if there's any others with experience from microdosing,, basically its an anxiety/depression and self asteem problem, which i noticed quickly that LSD does/can help with..

basically, im wondering how much -- for how long, and what intervals would be suggested,, and when should i start worry ? ie. how much lsd can u take daily before it starts frying you?

appreciating any replies in regards to this,.

 

There were some experience reports about it somewhere here, but I can't remember where they are.

I think it was doing it 5 days in a row.

 

well you really have no way of telling what the potency of your blotters is, so i guess you could go by portions of a single dose.

start with something like 1/10th a blotter, and increase it by a tenth every day for ten days until you reach one full blotter and then chill out for a few weeks and evaluate the effects.

 

That makes no sense whatsoever
If the real average street dose according to samples tested by the DEA is
20ugs-80ugs than those strengths are already microdoses. LSD's threshold dose is 20ugs in humans.
Sandoz labs produced tabs in 50ug and 100ug strengths. Thier liquid was 100ugs per ampule. There was an attempt to use it as an antidepressant at 25ug doses, but due to the rapid tolerance it proved to be fruitless.

My suggestion would be to take a whole hit, evaluate the strength, and then determine if 1/4 or 1/2 hits would suffice as microdoses. Starting with a tenth of a dose would by pointless, the blotter would have to be at least 200ugs per hit to have any effect at that range. The likelyhood that you have 200+ug a hit blotter is very unlikely. If it is that strong I'll send you a self addressed stamped envelope to fill with a couple dozen and send my way for evaluation.

 

^ive never seen blotter as low as 80ug, that seems pretty lame blotter. most stuff ive seen/used ranges from 100-250ug

 

well the point of miscrodosing isn't to get threshold effects. it is to induce whatever it is your trying to accomplish by slowly allowing lsd into your system.

it would be better off to start at a mega low dose for your first 'microdosing' experiment. it is after all called 'micro' dosing. i mean if you ended up underestimating your blotter even a little bit you could end up with some serious reprecussions. tripping for a week straight is some pretty hardcore shit. i tripped for 5 days straight this summer and not even the most intense psychedelic experiences really compare to what happened during those 5 days and the after effects that were incurred, not even salvia.

even if it was doing nothing the first few days he would eventually work up to a level where it was having an effect. even if the entire experiment was a bust the first time around it is absolutely better to be on the safe side. he can always try it again later on with a higher dosage after a month or few month break or something, learning from his first microdosing experiment. i mean we are after all talking about taking acid DAILY for a set period of time. safety and solidarity of your mind is the first and utmost goal.

say we are dealing with your average blotter here. 100 ug.

that is 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, and then 100, ugs. for a total of 450 ugs in a short period of time. what i have come to learn is that the way that your are affected by lsd is mainly determined by how much lsd you take in a certain period of time, after set and setting that is.

you shouldn't worry. have confidence and you will be fine. just take small amounts for a set period of time and then take a break afterwards and evaluate the effects.

this is fairly new stuff. not alot of people microdose, although i'd like to know how exactly it differs from regular tripping and what kind of, if any, change are induced.

i'm interested to know how this turns out though. keep us posted please!

 

And you know this for certain how?
I would bet that the majority of people in this forum have never seen anything stronger than maybe 150ug per hit.
Just the fact that people talk about doing "a ten strip" tells me thier taking very low dose hits. I promise you if you took ten hits of the shit that we had back then you would piss yourself and cry for your mama!
Sorry but I would trust the DEA and other labs before any of the rumor/myth/dealerBS thrown around these forums.
I was lucky enough to take stuff in my days that was verified dosage.
First time I did lsd it was microdots that tested by Pharmchem in 1976 to be 175-200 mics per dose, the fluctuation was due to variences in tablet size/weight. Then we had liquid straight from the chemist and also had that tested, came back at 100ug per drop and 150ug per drop as we were told by our source. The days of 200+ doses ended in about 1968-69 because to many people had bad trips from the high doses. Google it.
I'll tell you 100ugs of LSD is a lot stronger than you think.

Don't believe me here is one resource;
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_article1.shtml
and another;
http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/lsd08a.htm
and then search through these;
http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/programs/forensicsci/microgram/bulletins_index.html

Get the FACTS about this stuff, not what your buddy's friends cousin told you.

 

I just Googled micro doses of LSD and came up with results from various sources, even this thread, I suggest you do the same and look for the experience reports on erowid, real research that has been done with LSD as an antidepressant. You will get a lot better and more reliable info from legitimate research sources than from what I or anyone else here can tell you.

Desos no disrespect intended but you really don't know what your talking about, do more research. One of the hallmarks of wisdom that often only comes with age as we have discussed before is knowing the limitations of your own knowledge. It's OK to say " I don't know"

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt. :hat:

 

It highly depends on your tolerance and expectations. If you take 500-1000ug ed for 5 days then take a sheet it would be much different than doing 8 hits for the first time, which 10 years ago might have been affordable for under 500 bucks, (2000ug).

 

and what the hell does that have to do with the strength of lsd doses available today ?

to take 500ug or more of todays lsd you would have to take ten or more.
My point is that people greatly exaggerate and overestimate the strength of LSD they take.
Since there aren't any independent labs out there testing street drugs for normal folk like they did in the late 60's and 70's it's really fucking hard to get an unbiased and reliable determination of dose strength. You can believe the dealer at the festival when he tells you it's 200ugs a hit, I choose to be more realistic and practical.
If I gave you some blotter and told you it was 100ugs a dose and it was really only 50ug, and you believed me, then your subsequent subjective judging of any future doses would be wrong.

My point is where in the hell are people getting this strong shit when for the last 30 years the stuff that has been tested rarely goes over 100ugs a hit.
It is just simple logic unless the DEA and other law enforcement agencies around the world only ever catch the dealers with weak acid :toetap05:

 

My point id that the strength acid is much more dependent on the crystal dissolvers' intentions than LSD's solubility. Theoretically, somebody could have a 450 mic per hit ortimes 10 times that. Somebody could have it although it is just unlikely to be supplied as "1 hit".

 

With a slightly sweaty hand, I could shake your hand with L and have you fry harder than you have in your life...(w/ few exceptions.)

 

Another spot with lots info and resources.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3850367/The-Usenet-altdrugs-LSD-FAQ

 

Again, what does that have to do with the FACT and REALITY that for over 30 years the average street dose was below 100ugs.
You can talk theoreticals all day, I'm only concerned with what is really out there on the street.
Most crystal dissolvers intentions are to make fucking money. You make more money per gram of crystal by making 100ug hits than you do by making 400ug hits.

I once had a hit that was 1000ug, but that was something special our supplier made up for his regular high volume customers, (about 1000 hits every two or three weeks) as a gift.

 

once again, What the fuck does that have to do with anything in this discussion?
and thats making the assumption that you know my history with these types of substances, which you don't.

 

That was acknowledged iun my statement.

 

well if i was going to microdose then that is how i would go about it. its more of a process of self-experimentation. there just isn't enough reliable information about microdosing.

the long term effects can't be that different from just a regular old trip, which makes me want to err on the side of caution.

 

Well considering the strength of your sheet is unknown, I'd probably take 1 hit the first day, and see how that is strength wise. If it's a dose that doesn't really effect you in a visual way but supplies more of a body high, then it's safe to say that's a good start for your microdosing. If it does effect you visually, make your next dose half a hit and work your way up a half hit every day, or if one hit doesn't effect you visually, work you way up 1 hit every day. The tolerance you gain dosing every day will keep you in check for slightly raising your dose.

LSD isn't going to necessarily fry you, unless you are taking heavy dose trips everyday, but even that's debatable. Honestly depends on the user and intentions. IE., is it a tool or something to just get purely fucked up with? But even the latter doesn't quite matter but some people who overdo it like that end up with issues and regression.

And most people who have experimented with microdosing keep it going for a few weeks. Make your pick, whenever you start to feel more stabilized and locked into a natural sense of well being, then that'd probably be a good time to stop and then see if it lasts.