I've taken adderall and ritalin and other stimulants before and I did not react well to them, a negative reaction to describe it short where my heart would race extremely fast and pound and I would feel very weak and queezy. Now I know that 2 ce and 2 ci both have stimulating properties, would they be as strong as amphetamines and how different? I think I may end up going with 2-cc if they BOTH would be a bad gamble for me, which is why I need extra insight lol.
I used to be prescribed adderall, and trying various forms of ritalin before I stopped with adderall as my prescription of choice, all around the time I was doing 2C-E, and I was fine.. I don't think 2c-e is any where as nearly stimulating in the sense of how adderall or a real stimulant would be. It's safe to say your safe.
yea, i've been off and on RX stimulants [legitimately] for years, and i've had the same problems you speak of, but they usually only happened when i would skip a meal, or take them on an empty stomach without eating shortly after. really, you'll be fine, i didn't notice any "heart racing" on 2c-x...at least NOTHING like the heart pounding i felt on DPT.
I've actually found both 2ce and 2ci to be very sedating. That may not be the case for you, but neither are anywhere near as stimulating as adderall or ritalin, in my experience.
on a pleasant trip, i feel that 2ce is sedating as well. but if i get in a negative thought loop, then i feel some anxiety and "pain" in the left of my chest...my heart? the last dose i took really fucked with my digestive tract. it felt like my intestine was coming detached or something...i'm sure it wasn't that bad though. do you guys notice anything unpleasant about 2ce? i don't really get nausea, it's more of a pain in the gut and i get a headache on the comedown and next day for sure that was just ~12 or so mgs. 6 mg and then 5.x mg about 45 mins later and random SPECS - very small - throughout that time i was using a scale accurate to .0001 grams or .1 mg - so that's sweet. i weighed out 14 doses i think. ranging from 8.5-22 mg. i can weigh half mgs my trip was awesome though.. maybe i'll write more about it later but anyways
I definitely get some pretty intense nausea during my 2ce comeup. I usually preload with DPH when I trip on 2ce, and I still get the nausea, but it's even worse when I don't use DPH. I need to try ginger. Aside from the nausea, I get zero negative effects from 2ce.
wow, you don't even get a slight headache? especially with 50 mgs i'd think you would. what's wrong with me?
No, I've never noticed a headache. After the nausea passes, I usually get nothing but some very intense euphoria. That's probably because I just get lost in music though, and everything else ceases to exist.
yea, try ginger. i've never used DPH for chemical related nausea, but ginger works better for me than DPH for nausea associated with motion [which usually isn't bad for me at all.]
I find that 2ci and 2ce (2ci moreso) will slightly increase my heart rate by ~15% or so. however, it is nowhere near what amphetemines or even other phens. like DOC will do to heartrate.