Manipulation with intelligence? social engineering?

Do you manipulate those less intelligent than you? are you a manipulator? are you a social engineer? Do you think its "right", or ok?

 

I am a manipulator, but just because everyone is less intelligent than me.

 

I think i definitely manipulate and social engineer. if it benefits me, hell yeah. Its helped me in so many situations.

 

You don't need to be intelligent to be manipulative, charming is a more useful trait for that, good looking, salesman.

 

Haven't we been here before not so long ago? But yeah, I'm a manipulator. I do like the term social engineer though. Might start using it as a form of defense when peeps call me a manipulative fucker!

 

I don't think it's manipulating if they don't think anythings happening to them...

lol

 

Have been known to!! ........Not proud of it though!!!

 

No, never. I am saintly.

 

AGREED.

the ability to manipulate has helped me too throughout my life. of course i dont do it in a malicious or mean sort of way

 

No, I don't manipulate people. It's better to see the good in people than to look down upon someone because you feel you're somehow better than they are. Everyone is unique in their own way. It doesn't matter how intelligent or unintelligent they are.

And as far as social engineering... there is enough of that in the world with TV. I wish not to add to it.

 

I use my intelligence to the best of my ability. Maybe the difference is that a true manipulator uses their intelligence to deceive?

 

What if you understand social dynamics and the psychology of social interactions? Does that make me manipulative if I know what to say and when to say it, the correct body language and sub-communications? Let's go a little deeper, is it manipulative if it is now done unconsciously?

 

If I need to get something done social engineering can help

It does not have to be a negative thing

Sometimes leading people to believe you are affiliated with a certain group can go a long way in meeting certain individuals that you need to meet with when the "gate keepers" are denying you access

I have also found that it can help get people to release information if you pretend you know because they tend to correct you thinking you were in the loop

It is a powerful thing that can be good or bad

 

Depends on if you're trying to fuck somebody over or not.

 

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ma⋅nip⋅u⋅la⋅tion
  /məˌnɪpyəˈleɪʃən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [muh-nip-yuh-ley-shuhn]

–noun
1. the act of manipulating.
2. the state or fact of being manipulated.
3. skillful or artful management.


It's not necessarily a bad thing, it depends on what you are using it for. Just like a knife, it can be used positively or negatively.

If people just let shit go, things would be different.

Suicidal jumpers (even though some may deserve to jump)... they are manipulated to come down, peace negotiations and ect. It's an art, it just depends on how you use it.

 

I try not to. I am not more intelligent than most, but I can be very charming and flattering to get what I want from men. I don;t like that I do that.

 

Intelligence has nothing to do with your ability to manipulate

manipulation is a use of cunning, which, though related to intelligence, is not a requirement.

and one may be present without the other

also, one may be cunning, and be completely unable to catch manipulative action.

I do think manipulation of others by indirect means is wrong simply because it is a subversion.