Solar Power

shit, I should have added a blurb about hydro power there...

If you have running water on your property, or a lake or pond that is at least 8 feet higher then another portion of your property, then hydro (water) power is the way to go.

 

the club of rome.. :smilielol5::smilielol5::smilielol5:

 

see now i disagree with this statement,even putting together a mish mash of used parts as cheap as one can i believe a person should be completely aware of what to expect as far as output.
while if one invests a few hundred dollars only to have a 100 watt light bulb drain the battery in 6 hours because they didnt know any better may be trial and error,i feel it is still important for folks to know as much as possible about how to figure a systems capabilities before investing a penny.

QFT.

 

I totally agree, which was why I didn't say they shouldn't...

I said 'it wasn't as important in getting it to work', as the OP has demonstrated for us all.

 

Lets not turn this into a conspiracy.

 

im laughin with ya,not at ya.

 

I can appreciate that.
I was assuming you had an issue with them.

 

you know i do odon..

http://www.heartland.org/full/24851/The_Politics_of_Global_Warming.html

 

Not climate change...Solar panels.
Why do you have an issue with them regarding solar panels.

 

well odon,if i have a issue with someone or something i just dont turn it off and on depending on the subject matter.

if the club of rome is involved there are IMO underlying motives that ultimately will do nothing but harm the people they regard as chattel.

 

on the solar panels, has anyone heard about NF3 (nitrogen trifluoride) ?

seems to raise doubts as to how much solar energy in its current form actually helps the environment.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/top10-2008/index6.html

 

I'd rather compartmentalise, hippiehillbilly.

 

Solar to electrical technology really sucks right now... The power is there, we just can't harness it in an efficient manner for conversion... yet.

If you look at the whole issue, it is a lot like the way internal combustion came about. It wasn't about getting out a product that was appropriate and safe. It was about getting a product out period. Here we now sit with vehicles that have little better mileage then they did 40 years ago (excluding the new ones coming out lately).

The same applies to PV tech... Where we are now we can only collect from 15 to 30% of the available energy, research is happening to bring this up to conversion efficiencies of 30-60%.

Most of them are based on manufacturing processes and materials that are extremely harmful.

Wheres the balance of what is bad vs good??? No freaking clue in terms of PV tech... but I know where it is with wind, and have a good idea where it is with water, and both are extremly viable for small scale home use.

 

solar is good..

you know you never hear of, water flow power...
Im just high,.. but listen, You can funnel all the water fall off from your home from rain into one drain, this will pour over a paddle wheel like a windmill..

Or find a nice place to divert water off a stream and build a mill.. that would be FNawesome..

 

this is a very interesting idea being that we already have a cistern filled by rainwater off the roof.

we do get 70 plus inches a year on average of rainfall. i wonder if you could take a solar powered water pump and then recirculate the water through the generator and keep a battery bank charged that way?? hmmmm

yes,yes, im stoned too..

CT, your thoughts??

 

why cant a house fan charge itself,,, ?? ?why cant a solar lamp remain on forever?,, they can .. we know that they can, but it would defeat the purpose of consumerism..
Eventually the stream of manufacturing a everlasting gobstopper would come to a halt..

id really dig a old house with a underground steam providing hydroelectric..

 

Two reason's... one, if you are talking a normal house fan that plugs into the wall, it's AC, and it isn't reversible by reversing the blades. Even if it was a DC fan, which can put out power by being turned, the blades are designed to push air rather then be pushed by it.

If you mean from a point of never needing to be replaced, we are pretty close to that now with LED technology, and could be just by beefing up the architecture of LED lamps. From a power point of view, its simple, you just need enough storage (batteries) to last at least a couple days without charge, and enough PV panels to produce the power (at least 5-10 times the lamps draw, which isnt much if its LED.

interesting idea, although I would have to bet on you flooding your building site.

Now, if you meant like one in a cave, that would be very cool, although I would worry about pissin the mole people off...

 

THIS IS AWESOME!! i am new to the whole idea of solar power. i mean i have heard of it but i have never really studied it til now. my other half and i have been looking at tiny houses, and are thinking of building one ourselves in the future. recycled parts and making our own blue prints. but i like the idea of having the house solar power. i'd like to cut back on waste and we really don't need as much as we use right now. this is great, i took notes! lol.

 

also, curious, what does it take to run a fridge?