refried beans

are fucking wonderful, and unbelievably easy to make. i don't know why anyone would buy them premade when you can make them better and cheaper at home instead of buying a can of it.

 

I like making refried black beans with olive oil instead of lard :cheers2:

 

Why would anyone ever buy canned vegetables anyway?

 

i just made combo pinto and black beans, with oil and just a touch of butter instead of lard. also cumin, fresh garlic, onions, red pepper, black pepper, and salt.

next time i have bacon i'm gonna try bacon grease instead of oil

 

I eat refried beans at least 3 times a week..

 

I've never tried to make refried beans.....

I should.

 

What the hell are they?

I mean I like them, with guacamole and chimmy chungas and all that.

But what the fuck are they, what do you have to fry them and then let them cool down and then fry them again?

 

Yep, it's so easy to open that can!

 

i wondered that myself for a long time.

apparently the english name is a mistranslation, but i don't know spanish well enough to say.

anyway, you cook your pinto beans, or whatever beans you want to use, and then set them aside. also reserve the liquid in which they were cooked. using lard, bacon grease, or oil, saute a minced/diced clove of garlic and chopped onion to taste, along with whatever spices you want in it. once it smells good, add the beans and fry briefly. add some of the reserved liquid, and mash beans with a potato masher. mash thoroughly and keep adding water until the desired consistency is met. remember that they will thicken noticibly after being taken off the stove.

its cheaper to cook the dried beans yourself and do it that way, but you can use canned beans, too. it's still cheaper (per ounce) than buying premade refried beans, and the quality is better, too. instead of adding the cooking lquid back into the beans, just add water.

 

same can be said for tortillas.. hell same can be said for most canned or processed foods IMO..

 

i still haven't gotten around to trying to make my own tortillas again. the one time i tried (years ago, i'm much more competent in the kitchen now) came out poorly. way too thick. then again, i think i was making corn tortillas, and i remember discussing it with you or someone else on here and apparently corn tortillas are a lot more difficult to make without a press or something.

idk, anyway, i should try it again soon.

 

yeah corn ya gotta have a press.. yes being as you enjoy cooking you are cheating yourself by not perfecting flour tortillas..

 

simple foods are often some of my favorites. refried beans are a great example, just had some with rice. last night had some with bread. tonight, more with rice.

cheap, easy, healthy, and delicious.

i need to learn to make tortillas so i can make some dang burritos and stuff. flour and everything is dirt cheap....but its a couple bucks for premade tortillas which are probably quite a lower in quality (though i do like them)

 

there is no comparisons to store bought.. dilli is out making a batch as we speak.

and caramel dumplings for desert..:drool5:

 

I buy them pre-made in a can because I'm lazy... but they are indeed easy to make.

 

hey man i hear that goat is very similar to lamb, just about (or even equally) good quality with a very similar flavor, as well as easier to handle properly.

so i know you raise a handful if i'm not mistaken, and iirc i've read about you having a feast with one at thanksgiving or something

so anyway, i'm curious about what is really required in keeping and raising them in a humane fashion, including monetary cost as well as things like space and feed. also, i'm curious as to how you would describe the meat in comparison to other meats, especially lamb (my favorite, but very expensive)

of course, this is all assuming you indeed raise goats and i'm not crazy, making up memories of you discussing eating goat

oh! and if you do indeed have goats, do you milk them? do you know anything about cheesemaking?

i hope someday to have a little place in the country where i can have privacy and provide a lot of my own foods and things

 

dilli is gonna take this one..lol hang tight..

 

i really cant compare goat to lamb. I do not find it anything similar, although it has been years since i tried to gobble down lamb. If I had to describe what goat is most like i would say a cross between beef and venison. Many people will say they hate goat meat however it is generally a hygiene probelm with the animal itself or a bad cook

In a nutshell, they are a good homestead animal but do require a fair bit of space. There are different breeds and sizes and they all can be eaten. They need pasture or hay and some grains, dont like to be tethered out and need atleast one companion. There is a buncha goat info in that free school thing they have , i wrote it all ..

yes we raise goats although are moving more toward rabbits for food purposes. A downsizing of sorts lol. We do milk them after the babies get weaned and yes we do make cheese. It is simple to make soft cheese and you can make them with store bought cow milk too. It is much cheaper to make crumbly cheese this way than buying it already packaged. I dont mess much with hard cheeses as it involves rennet n aging and stuff and most cheese we use is in tacos and mexican foods anyway.

homesteading or having a place where you can grow your own food is amazing. Ya really dont know what its like til you do it. I hated veggies from stores andnever ate them, now we are damn near vegetarian and we know what we are eating... I think everyone should be mandated to grow atleast a small garden no matter where ya live ...

 

with the world the way it is today, i can not envision myself ever being totally self sufficient, but it is a dream of mine, hopefully not simply a pipe dream, to someday be damn near close to it to the point where all i really need is a part time job to get by.

i'd love to grow my own vegetables and herbs, and i've thought about rabbits, too. i'm a bit of a softy, see, and i think i'd have trouble slaughtering and butchering a large animal, but rabbits i think i'd be okay with and they're delicious. reproduce quickly to boot

anyway, i was just curious about the goat v. lamb situation because my grandmother who grew up on a family farm said that they taste very similar and are just as good but that if the fur of the sheep comes into contact with the meat it will spoil (don't know if that's truth or an old wives tale) which makes goat a better choice. i have a close personal friend who is an excellent cook and has worked for some very nice restaraunts who recently tried goat for her first time and also told me it tasted a lot like lamb to her.

whatever, though, i'd like to try it sometime. with an animal that big, though, i'd probably look for a professional butcher to take care of things for me. if that were the case, it probably wouldn't cost much different to get a lamb killed and cut up than a goat, so really the maintenance and raising costs would be more important.

course, with lamb its got to be young to still be lamb. mutton is not supposed to be nearly as good, too tough. idk, though, i've never had mutton.

 

It tastes and looks like poop to me. I'm never paying extra for nachos just to have them with refried poop again.