do people with higher iq's have less or no children?!

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  1. indian~summer

    indian~summer yo ho & a bottle of yum

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    :cheers2:
    exactly what i thought
    twas a good movie

    anywho i think it is true that people with higher IQs have fewer children


    i want to have maybe 3 or 4 kids, but i know i want my first kid to be a boy, don't know if that'll happen
    all i know right now is i want to be the best person i can be, have my shit figured out before i bring kids into the world
     
  2. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    get your MD and write a book.
     
  3. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    You can manipulate these things, you know.....
     
  4. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    If I get my MD I might as well work in the field :rolleyes:
     
  5. indian~summer

    indian~summer yo ho & a bottle of yum

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    hmmmmm *strokes beard*
    perhaps
     
  6. nesta

    nesta Banned

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    which is why i said intelligence is not evolutionarily advantageous until a species has reached a certain point. i.e. once human beings were well established with villages and agriculture and could defend themselves against wild animals, they reached a point where the most intelligent among them could help themselves or the community survive better through various innovations (weapons, medicine, other technology or social institutions)

    this is a very recent development in terms of the entire past of so-called modern humans, if the "experts" are to be believed. as such, its not reached a point where the majority of people look for high levels of intelligence before anything else in a potential mate.
     
  7. nesta

    nesta Banned

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    oh, i thought you wanted to be a doctor. you'd talked about it a bit, anyway.

    why don't you want to be a doctor? you don't have to be a general practitioner, you could specialize in something that interests you specifically :eek:
     
  8. Wild Mountain Dave

    Wild Mountain Dave Rainbow

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    I think it's very unintelligent to have children when you cannot even support yourself and your spouse. I doubt it has much to do with IQ's but I could see low IQ people havin babies when they shouldnt at a higher frequency than those of a high IQ. Again, I will state that it has nothing to do with IQ, though.
     
  9. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    A lot of reasons.

    Also, I have a really good chance of getting into St.Andrews next year. I think Scotland would be great. I'd have to study Latin, Philosophy or Religious Studies though.
     
  10. nesta

    nesta Banned

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    scotland would be awesome:eek:
     
  11. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Totally. I wish I was aware of this possibility 2 years ago....:rolleyes:
     
  12. hippychickmommy

    hippychickmommy Sugar and Spice

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    Supposedly, but according to one of the methods of manipulation regarding sexual position, my oldest son would have been a girl. ;)

    I wanted a boy first too, got lucky and had one, then with the twins I was hoping for either a boy and a girl or two boys, got one of each. Very good deal! :)
     
  13. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Haha !


    Also, I wasn't referring to sexual positions ;)
     
  14. hippychickmommy

    hippychickmommy Sugar and Spice

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    Ooops. Sorry. :eek:

    Were you referring to timing? Because they say timing it within the cycle can affect which sex you conceive!
     
  15. nesta

    nesta Banned

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    isn't the (genetic) sex of the baby determined by the chromosome the sperm carries to the egg? it's either x or y, depending on which gets there first. how can one manipulate this?

    i am aware of some rare defects, but i don't understand exactly how they come about.
     
  16. nesta

    nesta Banned

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    i really wouldn't believe that at all.

    it almost completely has to do with the genes in the sperm cell that happens to make it to the egg
     
  17. Mr. Mojo Risin'

    Mr. Mojo Risin' Senior Member

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    Uh. No.

    On topic, my IQ was somewhere in the 120s when I took the test a few years ago and I don't want children.
     
  18. hippychickmommy

    hippychickmommy Sugar and Spice

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    Well, here's what they say regarding the "Shettles Method"...

    Basically, men produce two types of sperms, the X (female) and Y (male). According to Dr. Shettles' studies the y-sperms are smaller, weaker, but faster than their siblings x-sperms, which are bigger, stronger, but slower. Based on this fact, there are several things you can do to "favor" the conception of boys or girls:

    (1) The most important aspect of all is timing of intercourse during the monthly cycle. The closer to ovulation you have sex, the better the chances to have a boy, because the y-sperms are faster and tend to get to the egg first. If you have sex 3 days or more before ovulation, the better your chances to conceive a girl, because the weaker y-sperms tend to die sooner and the x-sperms will be available in greater quantity whenever the egg is released. On the other hand, having sex from 2 days before ovulation, through a few days after ovulation, is better for conceiving a boy. Around the 2-day point -- 48 hours before ovulation -- seems to be the 50/50 mark.

    (2) The pH of the women's tract is also very important. A more acidic environment favors girls, since it will kill the weaker y-sperms first, leaving a greater quantity of x-sperms available to fertilize the egg. On the other hand, a more alkaline environment favors boys. Shettles recommends a douche of water and vinegar (acid) immediately before intercourse to favor a girl; a douche of water and baking soda (alkaline) will help for a boy.

    (Don't try this without reading Shettles! You have to dilute the douches properly, according to his formula, or they won't help and might hurt you.)

    Note: Some women are naturally very acidic and have a hard time conceiving boys.

    (3) Position of intercourse and depth of penetration are important, partly because of pH. The closer to the entrance to the vagina, the more acidic the women's tract is. Also, deep penetration places the sperm closer to the egg, and gives those aggressive boy sperms a head start :). So, a shallow penetration will favor girls and a deeper will favor boys. Shettles recommends missionary-position for a girl, and rear-entry (dog-style) for a boy.

    (4) Women's orgasms can also be important. It also has to do with pH. When a woman has an orgasm, the body releases some kind of substance that makes the environment more alkaline, favoring boys. He recommends no orgasms when trying for girls!

    (5) The sperm count is another factor. Obviously, a low sperm count to begin with doesn't favor either sex. But a high sperm count favors boys. Shettles recommends three things:

    (a) When trying for a boy, don't have sex for 3- 4 days before you reach the target date a day or two before ovulation! For girls, have sex everyday from day=1 or day=5 ("cleaner" :)), and stop 3 days before ovulation.

    (b) Shettles recommends that for boys, the man wear loose underwear only -- that is, men who usually wear briefs or other tight underwear should switch to boxers. The idea is the same as wearing boxers to increase overall fertility -- the testicles need cooler temperatures for sperms to survive, and the Y-sperms, since they are weaker, will be helped more than the X-sperms by this method. However, Shettles does NOT recommend the opposite, that men wear briefs for a girl -- this will just decrease overall fertility.

    (c) Also, for a girl, the man is supposed to take a hot bath immediately before intercourse. "Room temperature" is fine for a boy. The idea is the same as the briefs versus boxers -- give the X- sperms an advantage.

    (6) Finally, in trying for a boy, Shettles recommends a nice cup of caffeinated coffee for the man, right before sex -- he isn't clear on how or why this works, but apparently it gives the Y-sperms a jolt!
     
  19. hippychickmommy

    hippychickmommy Sugar and Spice

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    Do I believe any of this? Not really, I tend to think it's simply the luck of the draw. But it's interesting to see what people will try to conceive a certain sex. :)
     
  20. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    It has to do with the acido-basic balance. Basically you can have sex in an acidic environment, which is suitable for the x chromosome. And then the x chromosome will get there first. Probably.
    Or you can have sex in an alkali environment, which suits the y chromosome.
    Could be the other way, I cannot remember correctly. I might ask around :p
     
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