swine flu mandatory quarnatine or take the shot?

There was recently a riot at middlesex county jail in massachusetts when a prisoner was diagnosed with swine flu

300 plus prisoners practically destroyed the facility when they set off the sprinkler system flooding several floors


hotwater

 

i trust them far more than i trust our government.

once again, look what happened in the 70's, the last time they rushed a vaccine.

nope not me.

 

the definition of pandemic simply means the unexpected number of occurences in the infection have spread over a large area

 

I really had no idea it was serious of a virus.

I mean we all get sick from time to time.

 

I know.

 

its not but they damn well are going to portray it as a terrible threat to humanity..

this whole thing stinks..

 

exactly. and things won't be any different than they are now, other than they may decide to require the vaccine for school children. and who cares about those nose pickers anyways? they're the ones that start the whole zoonotic relationship with animals to begin with, with their damn petting zoos. i say, quarantine all of the children, allllll of themmmm.

 

You trust scaremongers then.

 

srz bznz

 

whats scaremongering about stating facts?

do you know the proccess a normal vaccine goes through as opposed to what they are doing now?

the government intends on using the population as guinea pigs.

now i am glad you trust your government to make a correct guess on whether or not a vaccine is safe enough to give to the masses without going through the normal proccess,but im not.

on another note, say they do call for a quarantine on a large scale,do you have food in your house for a month??

 

Vaccine May Be More Dangerous Than Swine Flu

http://www.foodconsumer.org/newsite/...ming_soon.html

 

this coming from the guy who said planet x was going to rip through the earth. you must be really bored.

 

what?? i never said such a thing.. go troll somewhere else..

 

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=369930


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thats not what i said.. what i was referring to was the validity of the rest of the story.. which the nasa article seemed to add validity to..
my comment had nothing to do with planet x except to say i think its bullshit.

your comprehension skills leave something to be desired,but then you are in the military, its to be expected..

 

Here use of language.

Basically, Barbara Loe Fisher and the website are cautious of vaccines, which is fair enough. To scare people, they are making out you will have no choice and people under 18 are going to have to have an experimental vaccine, wether they like it or not.
That isn't quite true, is it?

To me Barbara Loe Fisher IS scaremongering.

Yes, I do. Do you think we have time to put any vaccine through years of trials etc? Do you think they shouldn't be finding a vaccine?
Using words like "experimental" suggests a different procedure for creating a vaccine is underway, imo.
More scarey words to make this seem a lot worse than it is.

Even if the CDC put a vaccine through two decades worth of testing.
If they then suddenly gave the vaccine to nearly 100 million people, there will be an incidence of people having a negative reaction, perhaps even dying. I think 500 developed Guillain-Barré and 25 people died...I'm not sure if the 70s vaccine was found to be the cause. But it has been associated with the vaccine. This obviously makes all vaccines evil.

Guillain-Barré Syndrome and TIV
The annual incidence of Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS) is 10--20 cases per 1 million adults (227). Substantial evidence exists that multiple infectious illnesses, most notably Campylobacter jejuni gastrointestinal infections and upper respiratory tract infections, are associated with GBS (228--230). The 1976 swine influenza vaccine was associated with an increased frequency of GBS (231,232), estimated at one additional case of GBS per 100,000 persons vaccinated. The risk for influenza vaccine-associated GBS was higher among persons aged >25 years than among persons aged <25 years (233). However, obtaining strong epidemiologic evidence for a possible small increase in risk for a rare condition with multiple causes is difficult, and no evidence exists for a consistent causal relation between subsequent vaccines prepared from other influenza viruses and GBS.
None of the studies conducted using influenza vaccines other than the 1976 swine influenza vaccine have demonstrated a substantial increase in GBS associated with influenza vaccines. During three of four influenza seasons studied during 1977--1991, the overall relative risk estimates for GBS after influenza vaccination were not statistically significant in any of these studies (234--236). However, in a study of the 1992--93 and 1993--94 seasons, the overall relative risk for GBS was 1.7 (CI = 1.0--2.8; p = 0.04) during the 6 weeks after vaccination, representing approximately one additional case of GBS per 1 million persons vaccinated; the combined number of GBS cases peaked 2 weeks after vaccination (231). Results of a study that examined health-care data from Ontario, Canada, during 1992--2004 demonstrated a small but statistically significant temporal association between receiving influenza vaccination and subsequent hospital admission for GBS. However, no increase in cases of GBS at the population level was reported after introduction of a mass public influenza vaccination program in Ontario beginning in 2000 (237). Data from VAERS have documented decreased reporting of GBS occurring after vaccination across age groups over time, despite overall increased reporting of other, non-GBS conditions occurring after administration of influenza vaccine (203). Cases of GBS after influenza virus infection have been reported, but no other epidemiologic studies have documented such an association (238,239). Recently published data from the United Kingdom's General Practice Research Database (GPRD) found influenza vaccine to be protective against GBS, although it is unclear if this was associated with protection against influenza or confounding because of a "healthy vaccinee" (e.g., healthier persons might be more likely to be vaccinated and are lower risk for GBS) (240). A separate GPRD analysis found no association between vaccination and GBS over a 9 year period; only three cases of GBS occurred within 6 weeks after influenza vaccine (241).

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5707a1.htm

No. I'm not going to be left with no food or water to drink, though.
Only people that don't want to be helped will have to look after themselves.

 

yes there is a different procedure underway,therefore Guillain-Barré could very well be the least of your worries.

and yes, i do think we have time to wait.

i think its the government doing the fear mongering and leading people like you to believe there is some sense of urgency that isnt there otherwise.

 

I can maybe agree with the preservatives and mercury potentialy just increasing the onset of autism.
The goverment does know the cause though. i was in DC back in 2004 maybe? They had the cause doumented then. That same person who revealed that info to us, was later fired from a partially goverment funded non=profit. Super spiffy.
I know the amount of the preservative sint eh vaccines now is much less than those manufactured in the late 90's batches and 200' batch, but it still has some mercury in it and with mental illness running in my family and me having ADHD, I don't want to chance it.

 

Someone very close to me, but I can;t say who because they were paid off by the goverment not to tell has Lymphoma from a vaccine the goverment mandated them to take.
The vaccine is no longer around and it was for a very very small percentage of the population.
I don;t know what to do when I have kids, I want them to be healthy and be able to attend girl scounts and dance classes and soccer and school, but I am scared to death of havign a child with autism.

 

bella, we both know someone on the forums suffering the same fate as what you just posted..
but yeah, aint no way..