60s Youth vs. Today

Yes we can.

But what thread?

 

This is all far to long to read, the kids that you are referring in the 60s were all born in the 50s, yea never never land, we were pampered and taught to be seen and not heard.. Things were handed to us, just to keep us quite. So let me clue you in on what really happened.. We grew up watching our parents being lead around by the nose by corrupt governments and materialism all around (gotta keep up with the Joneses) We were fed on crap like "Leave it to Beaver' and 'Father know best' well guess what father didn't know best.. So we looked for our own way, that meant rebellion against our parents and the establishment that thought it was just fine to ship us off to fight some third world countries dirty little war for them, meh whats the point none of you were there so whats the point in even trying to talk to you ? dream on.

Peace

 

The thread that we can talk crap in. So we don't bother others. Remember. Obviously not.

 

YES!

Let's do this shit.

 

IF we had the heart and drive... that's a very big if...

Our entire culture is media driven... not just young people. That media is driving us into complacency... and keeping us divided.

I think a lot can be explained by looking at how the value systems were formed and by whom. The people hitting their teens in the sixties were brought up by a generation that had been through the great depression and WWII. A value system that emphasized counting every penny- carefully measuring household resources and making do is not going to emphasize the value of leisure but the importance of stepping up as soon as possible and carrying one's share of the load around the house. Without so many media distractions, families spent far more time together and there was no question who was in charge of the household. There were no entitlements- you got exactly what you earned- whether that be a few pennies and nickels from odd jobs- or a few bruises from being put in your place for showing any disrespect to an elder or otherwise breaking rules... family or neighbor- it didn't matter- respect was taught and expected- and no quick calls went out to DCF because little Johnny showed up with a couple bruises.

Somewhere along the way we've completely lost track of a community value system in a complete shift from belonging in a community and having neighbors as an extended family to almost total isolation with all manner of distraction available to fill one's abundant spare time and attention. We tend these days to value ourselves not by our word or character but by how much we have. Every succeeding generation after the Great Depression until about ten or twenty years ago seemed to repeat the old mantra of wanting their children to have it better (easier) than them. In fact it held true through the 70's and into the 80's this was more or less successfully done with "getting ahead" becoming easier to the point of not actually having to work and earn anything to the point where it seemed that having it better than your parents was an entitlement and not something you had to work for.

So a large portion (note, not ALL) of the youngest few generations feel that a convenient, comfortable lifestyle is a birthright, and establishing personal relationships with the community is not needed- it's possible these days to remain cut off socially if one chooses as we have gaming systems, cable & satellite television, and the internet to fill our spare time. We have lawn services and landscapers cut our grass and maintain our properties so having Jr. haul out the mower on a Saturday isn't necessary. Culturally we are being anti-socialized to a point where organizing against the government/corporate fascist alliance is not going to happen because the vast majority of the sheeple are transfixed by the wares it offers.

We do not know the meaning of the word "need" because most of us never really needed- we know that there will be a meal on the table- not to mention the table itself and a roof over it all. It doesn't really matter that we're renting it from a system that has bought up housing resources as an investment and driven the price of home ownership through the roof. It doesn't matter that over the past 25-30 years that deregulation has caused utility rates to sway to the fickle whims of speculators and for people to be gouged shamelessly when they pay bills. It no longer matters that localities in times of tax revenue crises are squandering billions into non essential projects because we're too damned busy watching American Idol instead of following the goings on in Town Hall and the state Capitol and speaking up BEFORE votes are cast and our tax money is spent.

What is discussed around the dinner table these days... or is there even a family meeting for a god damned meal? Much of the younger generation's value system used to be acquired by listening as Mom and Dad discuss pertinent matters between mouthfuls of homemade meatloaf and mashed potatoes- but these days, kiddo can microwave a Hot Pocket and nosh on its low grade poisons while pausing his game of WoW.

The differences of where and how value systems emerged are beyond profound... and the problem could be credibly summed up as we've had it too easy for too long. The parents of the previous few generations meant well to pad the lives of their offspring but all to often the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

 

gab session between children.. No substance

Peace

 

Oh come on! If the pure, unmitigated sense of entitlement among many young people today doesn't make you want to yurk your morning granola you just aren't paying attention.

 

you know old man, i do remember the late sixties. it may be through the eyes of a child but i do remember . in fact i remember vividly my oldest brother leaving home at 13 in 1969..

 

Yeah you may remember the late 60s farmer but i was I was active while you were still peeing in your pants..

Peace

 

Hello, the youth today is simply more apathetic and spoiled.


Politically, it's irrelevant, since neither is has made or is going to make any difference what-so-ever.

 

so your a old man trying to be better than everyone else because you lived once upon a time..

so what, as i said, a lot of us are still old enough to remember the times and therefore have saw how the youth have changed generation to generation..

 

Not trying to be better than anybody, just stating a fact, and BTW shouldn't that be 'have seen' ??

Peace

 

I like ToTTAlLy do not feel like readin this.
ThOse werds you uzed were liKe wayyy 2 biGG.

 

how the fuck should i know i never went past the ninth grade and was pretty much wasted from sixth grade on..

 

I don't blame you. Hell, I didn't read any of the other posts in this thread. Just doesn't seem worth my while.

 

go back to the uk forum then,,, seems you fit in nicely with them... wonder why

 

Boy this sure added substance to it -eh?

 

way i see it substance like what ol silver hippy added is a big part of the whole problem to begin with.. Those sort of folks see nothing wrong therefore nothing to fix and absolutely nothing to add to a conversation such as this and call it childish etc..... typical really

 

hmm.. I don't know. I understand your point but I really don't think that the 60's youth was more mature than today's youth - and I speak as a youth, and having 2 sisters younger than me (22 and 14) and being around young people a lot. I actually feel that kids today are maturing faster than then, and have a lot more grey matter in the head (French expression I can't translate.. like intelligence, potential) - only they don't seem to be able to focus it well. You talk about TV, video games, and such - well, yes, it does take from their full potential - but I've noticed that I can have very interesting conversations with kids younger than me, if you get to know them, they can be interesting and have a lot of ideas.. which I agree they could realize more, but, I don't think that their lifestyle necessarily speaks about what's truly going on inside.

If what I'm trying to say makes any sense.

 

thats just it penny, they are not stupid and they do have good ideas but at the same time have no motivation to do act upon the potential that is there and in many cases handed to them on a silver platter. They instead choose to sit n play games, chat on the net, text n play facebook crap locked behind the safety of their doors..

I dont think it is a maturity thing as there are n will always be immaturity at all ages. Its more an apathy or complacency with what they have, since most have it pretty good. Why bother to strive or do when everything is right there for you.. that is the difference between the generations..

we call it grey matter as well