umm,ultimately wouldnt that be the government being they are living in government housing on the dole? hardly what i would call "having to grow up". fact is kids are staying at home with mom and dad much MUCH longer than they did in the 60's, another sign that kids do not "have" to grow up quicker. its just a false statement all around.
Oh yeah I know. The racism and the homophobia and shit was worse back then too. But the state of the actual world. The planet (I should've said Earth ) is getting worse. And that's largely due to people. And look at the poverty!! Fuck that makes me mad.
Yeah, the Establishment doesn't change. Just the same old egg. But, it was infiltrations IN the Establishment by the counter-culture that led to changes. What if NO ONE protested? You really think that the Vietnam War, Civil Rights and such would've been given rapid response? NO. It would not have. Stirring the pot is what did it. And the pot was stirred by YOUTH, WOMEN, MINORITIES and Kids of the Establishment who gave a flying shit.
Perhaps, history was written by old people who were young then. We don't have to agree. *I do think I am seeing it more from the British perspective than the United States perspective. Watch a few kitchen sink dramas...and you may agree with me more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitchen_sink_realism#1950s_and_1960s *
PURE FACT. Good catch, HH. This is so true in America. This, if anything, adds credence to the theory of the enlongation of juvenility.
We didnt start the fire It was always burning Since the worlds been turning We didnt start the fire No we didnt light it But we tried to fight it Just noticed the past tense.
I'm 18 and live at home. I have a job. I go to university (Journalism ). I help out, I'm paying back for leavers ($600 down, $100 to go), I fix my own car. I don't ask for money. I don't pay board or anything either. I like to drink and I like to smoke, but I'm 18 and I haven't been clubbing. For the fact people my age are idiots and I don't want to go to a club where everyone is sleazy and drunk and jumping around to some "cool" new music. Is it really an enlongation of juvenility? I don't feel the need to move out just yet, but I don't think that takes away from my maturity.
I guess to a degree that is true. They get the bare min'..and it isn't always money in the hand. Rent is subsidised but you still have to find a portion of the rent every week. You get about £13-20 child benefit a week (not just child mums) Basically, try living on 3/4s (or less) of what it actually costs to raise a child... People that stay at home are only forgoing paying rent or having a morgage. They still have to work, run a car, pay taxes etc etc etc. All the BS of living away from home but with mum and dad to bitch on at you too. Erm, nice life if you can get it. NOT.
By the way, I did grow up in the 60's and 70's and I'm inclined to agree, for the most part, what Libertine wrote.
what you posted just reinforced the fact that kids dont "HAVE" to grow up quicker.. they can CHOOSE to stay at home longer because,to quote a article i just read, I am not questioning the youth of todays maturity level,although i do believe they are not taking on personal responsibility as fast as previous generations. However i do as the quote pointed out lay a lot of that burden at the feet of the parents of the youth of today. the kids of today are not being forced into maturity so they are in no hurry to take on the responsibilities of adulthood. because they dont "have" too.
To be fair Despite a peace treaty signed by all parties in January 1973, fighting continued. In response to the anti-war movement, the U.S. Congress passed the Case-Church Amendment in June 1973 prohibiting further direct U.S. military intervention without Congressional authorization yet the U.S. was still heavily invested in the war until 1975, when North Vietnam captured Saigon. North and South Vietnam were reunified the following year... But this was on wiki.
perhaps it is because we have kids in this age range libertine and see it/ must deal with it first hand.. Even though we have raised our own children as we were brought up they simply are not like us in many ways so it is a constant subject of discussion...
Sorry, I feel like y'all are insulting me. I felt like the main reason for this thread was because young people of today aren't making a difference. I really feel that if I stay at home and focus on my job and my studies that I will be in a better position to do that. If we're talking about "responsibilities of adulthood" then yes, I agree. But then again, I'm never going to be the type of person who finds someone, "falls in love", gets married, pops out a few kids, and cleans and cooks all day. Look around this site?