FDA banning opiate painkillers?!!?

I heard on the news this morning, that the FDA is going to ban prescription painkillers that have acetaminophen in them, such as percocet and vicodin.
here's the full story:

http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212241063.shtml

WOW.
so, hypothetically speaking, of course, let's say you were in serious pain, and legitimately prescribed percocet. what will your dr. do? prescribe something without acetaminophen in it, such as oxys?
hmmmm.

so this is either a REALLY bad thing, or a really good thing, because they could give all prescribed patients, even with weak prescriptions like vicodins, they could bump it up to oxys, because that is currently the only opiate/narcotic pain reliever without acetaminophen!

 

I guess doctors will have to resort to prescribing Vicoprofen or something. lol

 

yeah. doctors could still prescribe medications that have NSAIDs instead of acetaminophen. (this would include ibuprofen, naproxen, and asprin as well as other NSAIDs)

 

i wonder though. lets say, the only kind of painkiller that really works on somebody is something like percocet, a narcotic pain reliever. since that contains acetaminophen, they'll ban that, so the patient will no longer have that. since the only thing that would help the patient would be basically a narcotic pain reliever, would they just bump the patient up to oxys? thats what im thinking will happen

 

They are doing the same thing with cough syrup.
My guess is that companies will just start making medications without the tylenol in it?

 

neodude true true but, its just how it is now. they won't wanna hand over oxys to just anybody with a painkiller w/acetaminophen script. so maybe, for people with weaker scripts such as vic 5/500's or something, they might substitute the acetaminophen for something else...possibly?

 

Well, the whole reason they are banning them from painkillers is because so many people are killing themselves by ingesting too much tylenol.
I mean, maybe technically they could replace the acetaminophen with something else, but if it is something that is harmful to your liver much like acetaminophen is, then this bill is pretty much pointless. I'm sure they know what the companies do and are in discussion with them, so swapping out one tylenol for another probably isn't what they are going to do.

 

lol....there's plenty of painkillers without acetaminophen..

 

yeah, something shitty like tramadol that wouldn't even touch someone, like, an elderly person with serious crippling pain?

 

Vicodan and Percocets will just come in pure form, which is safer...

20 yrs ago they had morphine pills there was nothing in them. DuPont making percocets and percodans used the aspirin and tylenol for marketing reasons..

 

vicodin in pure form is just hydrocodone, and percocet in pure form is, oxycodone, which is OxyContin. so basically, Percocet in pure form IS OxyContin.hmm
the firm hand of the law may be getting a litttllle TOO firm.
agreed?

 

well, this law is definatly a good thing for both drug abusers, and people who actually need the medication.

many people who actually need the medication are the ones taking it too regularly to treat thier pain, and they end up overdosing on acetaminophen. the same is true for abusers who try to take too much of the drug at one time, and they end up overdosing on acetaminophen.

this law would probably cause doctors to prescribe thier patients with oxycodone and recomend that they take it with a safe amount of acetaminophen. remember, pain killers work almost five times more effectively if taken with acetaminophen. furthermore, this would take the danger of abusers who, by one means or another, have gotten the oxycodone. they would be able to take the pills without having to do a cold water extraction or simply risk the overdose potential. the only problem for the abusers is that they still have to worry about oversdosing on oxycodone, which they have to deal with anyway.

 

They can also add asprin. I take Hydro 10/325 the 325 is asprin and not amp*. Funny when I started on them a year ago the PM doc he only prescribed non Tylenol med for patients who were going to be on them for longer than a month. His reason, "Liver damage".

 

yeah liver damage is the big reason behind it. even if you dont take them in amounts to overdose, it can still cause liver damage.

doesn't really stop me tho

 

i think this is great.

Their not getting rid of oxycodone and hydrocodone, there just finally doing the responsible thing and taking the pills off the market with APAP in it, theres still gonna be percocets and such but with less toxic additives like IBprofen so people don't kill their liver and such since doctors frequently overperscribe ones mixed with APAP since it's only schedule III and less work on their part.

 

what is this??????

who cares about all this bullshit?/

am i still gonna be able to get percs/vics on the street????? will price change??

 

hahah no shit man. i only care if i can still get my goods. if i can and it doesnt have apap im all good. i think they will just make hydrocodone pills with only hydrocodone in them now too.