Ald-52

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  1. shermin

    shermin Bazooka Tooth

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    Anybody heard of it?

    Well, it's an Lsd analog. Allegedly it was distributed as "sunshine acid" back in the 70's[maybe late 60's i don't recall] and it sounds amazing. It's supposed to not have the same anxiety response as lsd-25.

    All you need is about 999 years experience in organic chemistry!
     
  2. DerrtyJake

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    Ah the curiosity about this chemical never ceases. I've read that a majority of the LSD floating around is ALD-52, but I've also read it is extremely rare to find. The only people knowingly making this chemical are extremely talented. Try and meet a crooked chemist and maybe he'll cook some up for you. :)
     
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  4. shermin

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    i doubt it...i've read that in improper conditions ALD-52 will degrade to lsd-25...
     
  5. DerrtyJake

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    "If ALD-52 hydrolyses so easily to LSD, and the body is indeed a hydrolytic instrument, then these two drugs should be absolutely equivalent in every particular, This is the ergot equivalent of the psilocybin to psilocin argument, except this is an acetamide rather than a phosphate ester."

    That's from tihkal and the way he talks it seems like all ald-52 would eventually become lsd. Sounds to make like lsd after drinking a monster. But it has to come down eventually haha.
     
  6. shermin

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    ...interesting...I should read that, I haven't read the ergot portions of tihkal at all...hardly read tihkal at all to be honest, most of my energy went to reading pihkal.
     
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    I don't know if this is theory or fact, but I beleive that in order for LSD-25 to have an effect on you, it must be acetylated by the metabolic system INTO ALD-52 in order for it to enter the bloodsteam or BBB. And not all of the LSD-25 gets acetylated so some is wasted, but when ingesting ALD-52 you're doing yourself a huge favor and letting it all enter the pineal gland (ALD-52 doses are much more potent than LSD-25), and I think when it becomes acetylated it loses its anxiety/fear response triggers...I dunno, its probably not fact but some geek let me know this was the case.

    Most of the crap circulating is low quality LSD (even if its 'high quality', its not what it used to be in the 60's I hear). I've had good acid plenty of times but it was purely nothing like the two times I've had ALD-52, and wow, was it PURE. Aboslutely perfect. Everything felt sacred on the stuff. LSD-25 fels like childs play, and ALD-52 feels like Cosmic Bliss. Utterly beautiful experience and it was only from 1 hit. I can't wait to find ALD-52 again...or until I can make it in my own lab with MDA/MDMA/MDEA. mmmmmmmmm.
     
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    N/M
     
  9. Magical mystery tourguide

    Magical mystery tourguide Senior Member

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    That does sound really interesting but I've never read that before.
     
  10. codemeister3

    codemeister3 Banned

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    None of this statement makes sense to me. First of all, LSD back then is LSD now-a-days. LSD 500 years ago would be the same LSD as today. LSD 4000 years from now will be LSD. It will never be better or worse. Because in fact, LSD can only be LSD.

    If you read the article on erowid, they had a sandoz vial out and gave that to the testers. The testers said that it was the same as acid now-a-days.

    Second, the Tihkal statement says the exact opposite of what you just said. ALD-52 is hydrolyzed and not acetylated. The lower doseage might be attributed to the fact that it passes the BBB easier than LSD, which it is hydrolyzed in the brain to LSD. (like heroin to morphine)

    Third, LSD nor ALD effect the pineal gland. Their [main] action is at the serotonin receptors. It effects neurotransmitters and not hormones.

    This is a PERFECT example of how someone who sounds like they are smart can make you think they know it all. This is a horrible story of all the rumors I have heard. Please, now that you know, don't spread this story as knowledge! I am not getting one you, I just want the right information where its due.

    BTW once you become a chemist, make sure to send me a PM... ;)
     
  11. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    it's pretty common thought that doses are lower nowadays.
    fewer micrograms of the same molecule leads to weaker "acid"
    and acid that is synthed today COULD be lower purity. it could have more impurities, meaning the same amount of micrograms doesn't equal the same number of acid molecules.
    but acid today COULD also be better. or the same.
     
  12. deafrabbit

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    One thing I've always wanted to try.
     
  13. codemeister3

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    Back then it was made the same. It takes a good cook to get this going with real lab equip... Might as well be sandoz making it. A bath tube chemists isn't going to be making it, so I don't think there are very many impurities. Then again, none of use test anything. No ones know. Just seems logical to me.

    Am I still on drugs??
     
  14. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    yea the impurity thing is more far fetched than smaller doses. i think a lot of hits these days are dosed quite a bit lower than they were "back in the day," but i wasn't around so who knows?
     
  15. shermin

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    well, nowadays, lsd usually trickles down to the street as liquid, rather than coming from the chemist as pills, which means it's REALLY easy to cut with pure water to increase the profits of anybody who's hands it passes.
     
  16. codemeister3

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    Weaker acid isn't the point. My point was its the same. It was not different back then, just slightly stronger. Just take twice as many!
     
  17. ODB

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    lol, people cut vials with pure water eh? I bet they do. Sounds very ......
     
  18. DerrtyJake

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    It seems more likely N-acetyl-LSD would deacetylate to LSD in the body. I don't know any of LSD metabolites, but I'm sure ald-52 isn't one of them.
     

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