Yea, I had to learn that the hard way after my mom asking me to look at my arms. It's weird too because I've noticed that if I hit in my hand I don't bruise like I do if I hit in my arm. WEIRD!
scored a g of H 2day...tried to slam some but it didnt work out..i wasnt so sure of the amount of water i had to add..second when i got the mixture cooked and threw a cotton piece to the spoon it sucked up all the mixture and i couldnt suck them up the needle :S anyways i re-did the process but this time with no cotton..i got the mixture in the needle, found a vein stuck the needle to the vein but i couldnt pull blood to it :S so my questions are: 1- how can i kno the exact amount of water i need? 2- I know it obligatory 2 use a cotton so i need some1 to shed more light about usin a cotton? 3- Whats the reason that i couldnt get blood out of my vein? thou a couple drips of blood showed after pulling the needle out of my hand.
Before you get off - try to make your self warm, and believe it or not do some minor things (pump your arms or fists a few times- it get the blood flowing better)- -you also could be just catching only a part of your vein - or going thru it. This would cause a few drops to go into the set, then if you moved a little - you moved the point out of the vein. Always use cotton- it filters out the dirty shit that might be in the cooker or some nasty cut that shouldnt be mixed with the dope to begin with. Be careful that a small PC of cotton isnt getting stuck in the point- that would stop the blood from drawing up also- - Change cottons often. Junkies (and I speak for myself here) always think that there might a little left in the cotton- so when your sick ,you can do a "cotton shot" and hope there is a little in there to keep the sickness at bay- (there never is!) As far as "How much water?"- well I always bought dimes in NY -so I couldn't (or would want to) give any advise on that. Purity of the dope is important - With your average dime from NY - about 1/3 more or less of the set is good- - also depends on what kind of set your using BTW- I have been of a methadone program for many,many years- all this info is what I remember from a period in my life that got way out of control- - be careful out there best regards JJack
Thanks Jack pretty helpful..i got it right after several attempts found a vein in my right hand and it was pretty easy 2 use it..couldnt get any vein in my left arm thou..a frnd of mine told me that you can not shoot in ur left arm ?? how true is that ?
"Also, release the tourniquet BEFORE injecting, or the shot can get stuck and leak or collapse veins..." seriously? that doesnt even make sense?! DO NOT release until the needle is coming outta yer arm! i know im just a 30 yr old junkie...but..... honestly, thats almost the worst tip ive ever heard! no personal offense, just dont wanna see these kids fuckin themselves even worse.... xoxo
I'm not a needler, but if someone can give me some legible reasoning as to why NOT to release the tourniquet before injecting then I'll change the OP.
Well, after looking around on the internet for the last few days, I have found NOBODY that knows what they're doing who says "release the tourniquet AFTER injecting." It seems to be common junkie knowledge to release before injecting so FROM NOW ON STOP SPREADING JUNK ADVICE THAT IS GOING TO BE HURTING PEOPLE YOU IDIOT!
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but my Epi professor who specializes in STI's and IV Drug users told me that infections can be transferred from person to person by sharing the things used to clean the works. For example, HIV transmission has been shown by people using the same alcohol to clean more than one person's needles.
ok, i don't know where you are looking this info up, but myself and every user i've ever known, releases the tourniquet the second you pull the needle out of your skin. i sincerely do not understand why anyone would release it beforehand, that takes away from the point of using one in the first place... like you said you are not a "needler" and are strictly goin off some things you read, and please stop with the name calling, there is no need.
I suffer from permenent nerve damage to to diabeties. I have two visles of morphine sulfite and am wanting to try them out. I am expierienced with oral mophine, dextromethorphan and hydrocodone but i have never tried IV morphine. I know i want to do it and know once i start i cant go back. The risk outway the pain. i am financialy stable and have sources for medical grade morphine. $200 2 visles 50mg/1000ml morphine sulfate. i just need someone w/ epierience to guide me. do i dilute it with water? what guage needle?
Just because the small group of friends that you do your drugs with do it a certain way, it doesn't mean it's the right way. How many of you have actually done complete research of heroin before you decided to start doing it? I'm willing to bet none. And yes, I DO believe that the entire collection of information posted on the internet outweighs the information you're getting from 20 or so heroin addicts who likely don't own computers.
Honestly, I've never tried shooting those before. I have, however, had them in my possession and ended up smoking them.. or taking the coating off and snorting them. I'd say, best bet is, take the coating off.. squirt about 40cc's of water in it (after the pills crushed down of course), use a cotton to suck it up and hit. Just be sure to do it slow so that way you don't go over-board with it. However, if you end up putting water on the pill and it starts to glob up.. you can't shoot it. Hm. I hope that helps.
oh wow. Christinaa... please try to READ the post before you respond to it. the poster you replied to says they can get medical grade LIQUID MORPHINE for injection. they do not need to crush any pills because they don't have pills. they have liquid. and to the poster with the nerve damage: does that morphine liquid come in ampules that say "prepared for injection" or does it come in bottles that are for ingesting orally? because injecting the oral liquid is a BAD idea. the oral liquid contains stuff that is really bad for your veins so that it can't be injected. check your source and check the label, then look online at the pharmaceutical company's website who makes the stuff you're getting and make sure the preparation you have is for injection. if it is for injection, then you don't need to dilute it if you don't want too, but you should if you want to make it easier on yourself. get some normal saline to dilute, it is easy on the veins and it is easy to get at any pharmacy. first, draw however many ml you want of the morphine. since your prep was 50mg/1000ml, my guess is you won't want to dilute it because thats a lot of liquid for not many mg. a typical dose would be 10mg so that would be 250ml which wouldn't even fit in a typical syringe used for injection. my guess is that your preparation is NOT for injection. be careful, and if you have permanent nerve damage and oral meds arent working, you should talk to your doctor. there are iv options for chronic pain patients who have exhausted other options. that would be far safer. as for the actual topic of this thread: I started to try to inject a 40mg OC the other day and i think i fucked it up. I would love some advice on how to (as safely as possible) inject my OC. I have gear, I have tons of sterile saline and syringes, I have everything I need, but I don't know where to get real filters, and I can't figure out how to use the cotton and how to dissolve the OC in the water. do I use heat or not? Thanks.
To inject OC's (bad fucking idea cuz of binders/fillers) you just crush the pill up and dissolve it in some water... Boiling has been disputed because the active ingredient that we're looking for is the oxycodone, which is water soluble at room temp. I PERSONALLY think that heating up the mix would maybe make the binders dissolve into the water but I have no real experience so idk. If you're not going to heat it then make sure you crush it really fine first and stir it in the spoon with the water a LOT. to use the cotton, just roll it into a ball in your fingers then place it in the center of the spoon. it'll suck up most of the solution, then you SLIGHTLY press the needle into the cotton and suck the shit up from the cotton. DONT PRESS TOO HARD because you might end up damaging the end of the needle which could lead to vein damage/bruising/pain, etc. And as I've said before, a tourniquet is ONLY for finding the vein. Many people don't even need one unless they can't make their own veins stick out. Just hold your hands down to your sides and clutch them into fists a lot and get the blood pumping. You should see some. If you CANT find a vein without a tourniquet then just make sure you loosen the tourniquet once you've got the needle in your vein THEN inject. Failure to loosen the tourniquet could result in popped veins. NOT fun. AND MY QUESTION REMAINS : WHY IS THIS UNSTICKIED?
It's now linked, along with a bunch of other past stickies, in the FAQ sticky. We had accumulated way too many stickies. If you ever lose this thread, you can access it from the FAQ: http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=366078&f=120
Thanks for the help Twizz. I'm lucky in a way I guess, because I won't have to find my vein. I have whats called a Peripherally Inserted Central Catheter or PICC line. It is an IV access port that has two needleless syringe ports attached to a little tube that enters my arm (and my vein) just above my elbow and runs up through my vein into the left aorta of my heart. that means anything injected into the line goes straight to my heart and is distributed as quickly as possible through my bloodstream. So I won't be using a needle at all. the preparation is the most important part. so basically I need to let the powder dissolve and not heat it, letting the insoluble stuff sink to the bottom and then use the cotton to soak up the liquid and draw it out with my syringe. cool. I suppose I'll lose some of my dose but that doesn't matter. Oh, what about a MS Contin pill? They gel up really bad when you chew them, can you crush them up and dissolve them to shoot them anyway? I'd much rather shoot some morphine than oxy, it'd be much more efficient.
As I've said before I'm going off of only what I've read and heard from other experiences but the ones that gel up aren't injectable. My old buddy fucked up his arm pretty bad trying to IV the waxy ones. I think maybe if you dissolved the pill in hot water then the opiates from the pill would stay in the water and then if you cool the water off the wax would harden and float on the surface of the water, then you could just suck up the stuff under the wax/scrape off the wax. Once again, this IS NOT personal experience, this is JUST ME COMING UP WITH IDEAS ON THE SPOT. Check it up on Google. And honestly Verisimilitude, you should think about your priorities and where your life is going if you're desperate enough to inject wax-laced pills into your arm. Sorry for the parental advice, but this forum is family and I don't wanna see you guys drop off like flies because you couldn't handle the opiate addiction that you started and had every chance to quit. Hope you understand!
