"That's Gay!": Offensive?

Yeah, you CAN say whatever you want. But why would you? Are you really that attached to the kiddy slang that people stopped using when they got out of jr high? So maybe people shouldn't be upset about it, but many are, so why continue to upset them? That just makes someone a tool and a loser in my book.

 

I'm bisexual and it bothers me.

 

Gedio, nobody's talking about outlawing saying or thinking anything, so STFU about free speech and the thought police. We're just talking about giving a little thought to what you say, and having some consideration for your fellow man. You're a misanthrope, so you don't give a shit. Fine. But you're wrong when you say that everybody else is, too. "People" don't fiercely defend their every action to the grave out of sheer stubbornness because it's their insurmountable nature to always be right and have never done the wrong thing, just you and other fuckwits.

You say stuff like "people grew up saying it", and deny that it's a conformity thing? You really don't see the contradiction? Your only defense of saying it is "everybody does it". There was a time when everybody did a lot of things that are not socially acceptable today. Somehow, this fact doesn't put a dent in your theory that people never change their behavior because they're eternally defensive. If using the word gay this way makes sense to you, I'd love hear why. Even when used rudely, "retarded" is an attack on mental ability, and "lame" is an attack on physical ability. They retain a relation to their root definition, or they wouldn't make sense. How could "gay" not be a comment on homosexuality?

As for these other arguments about "well, people say retarded, too", or "where does it end?"... Come on. That doesn't make it alright. Look the other way on the issue that's before you because it won't stop all bad things from happening? Don't forbid anything reasonable (or even discuss whether something is reasonable and right), because it might lead to forbidding something else unreasonably? That's ridiculous. You cross bridges when you come to them.

 

Being offensive is so gay

 

Idk why it bothers people. If people started calling things they disliked "Straight" instead of "gay" it wouldn't bother me. If you're gay, you're gay. Be confident in who you are. If you're not gay then dont worry about it cuz they're not using a name that refers to you anyway.

 

someone with some sense. :cheers2:

 

Yeah nice post.

I think that it takes a bigger person to compromise for the sake of peace, even when they don't think that what they've done is wrong than to mount a vehement defense. What's so hard about "gee I'm sorry, I didn't think that I was offending you, I won't anymore?" It doesn't make you weak and submissive, it's not surrendering to the "thought police", it's being a good person.

Peace and love.

 

Did you try reading the thread? If you did and you still don't know why it bothers people, you have serious reading comprehension skills. I don't think that you do, so why did you SAY that you don't know why?

And calling someone a "honky" doesn't have the same effect as calling them a "******". Because an open wound can be aggrivated much easier than skin breaks. You can be confident in who you are and still not like it when people are constantly saying what you are is the very definition of all that's negative. You KNOW that what they're saying is not the truth, but that doesn't mean it's okay to lie.

That's a lousy way to live. Do whatever you want to anyone else, as long as you don't do it to me. First they came...

 

hmm very interesting quiestion.. i thought that That's gay means That's cool hehheehe

 

I put that because I have attention problems and didn't want to read the whole thing but i still wanted to put my opinion out there.

Wow. You're just showing how stupid people really are. Even though saying Negro and ****** mean the same thing, one can be more offending? Thats retarded. Stop being a bitch and getting offended cause people say you should be offended. If i took the The american flag and wiped my ass with it many people would get offended, but if i took a regular white cloth and wiped my ass they wouldnt get offended(well not in the same way at least). Why? I find most people just get offended at these things cuz they were taught to.

I meant stop bitching about taking personal offense when they are not even talking about you. Its fucking annoying.

 

Whoah... Didymus is one big bag of crazy.

 

Thank you. It comes with my screen name.

 

"Offended" is such a bad word to describe most peoples feelings about the matter. It conjures images of enraged religious nuts demanding that people stop badmouthing their religion and threatening death if they don't. Very few gay people will become furious or even outwardly upset about someone saying "that's gay", and most of the time they will simply ask someone respectfully not to do it.

 

Exactly, Stabby. I'm never angry the first time I hear someone say it. I may get angry at their stupid argument, if they offer one. I'm a little angry that it's as prevailant as it is, and people don't even get why it's wrong. But I don't typically gnash my teeth at individuals.

 

not offensive, its a new day and age

I mean shit...do you think "indian giver" for like a "taker backer" or people saying "cotton pickin'" as like a term for motherfuckin??? or "****** lipping" (wowzz)...or calling cops "crackers" like its just how it is....

jews got it waaaaay worse mane...theres a humor about jews NOBODY gets but its funny as fuck.

 

Agreed. Childish? Yes. Moronic? Yes. Disrespectful? Yes. But not offensive. There's no reason to be offended by somebody you don't respect. But having said that I understand how the disrespectful part bothers gay people. Heck, I'm not gay but it bothers me that such disrespect exists in anyone. And when it applies to you directly I'm sure it's even worse.

 

Im not gay, so Im not personally offended by the word. I think saying the user of the term is always a homophobe is probably a stretch too far, and not really true. However, the origin of the word being used as a term to describe anything bad, or negative, was because being gay was deemed to be bad, and wrong.

Therefore I think using the word "gay" in that context is wrong, or at the very least ignorant and immature. And even if the user isnt a homophobe, using it will subconsciously at least, make the user think that gays are somehow not normal, or at least lesser than heterosexuals. Everyone who uses the word in that context is not a homophobe, but I think its usage does perpetuate a view of gays being somehow bad. Whether the word is being used as a slight on homosexuals isnt really the point. The origin of the word being used like that was definitely driven by homophobic ideals, and therefore I dont really like the word being used in that way.

 

fuck it, its just fucking words

im rubber your glue

god damn, this thread is gayer than 8 guys blowing 9 guys

 

Who gives a shit if it's socially acceptable? The fact that I grew up using the term means i'm conforming with who? Myself? Retarded and lame aren't attacks on retarded or lame people, because they are being used in a different context. Sure on some level parrallells are being drawn, but the sentiment of the word is otherwise directed.

Who made you the authority on what is and isn't morally acceptable? We just appear to be going round in circles now so this is the last comment i'll make on the subject.

Political correctness is cancer, don't buy into it.

 

It has nothing to do with any absolute morality or dictated social protocol as you seem to have fabricated in your mind. Nobody is restricting your freedom in the least. It bothers people, and if you use it, they're going to ask you not to, if you don't heed their request you will make people people angry with you, they'll think that you're a loser, and they're not gonna wanna be your friend. Simple as that. You can't say things that upset people and expect them to have no reaction.