Although this is the 'Philosophy and Religion' forum, it lacks a subforum for specifically philosophical pursuits that do not pertain to spirituality directly, such as metaphysics, epistemology, Logic, natural philosophies, etc.
Kinda with you on this. The religious annoy the philosophers, and the philosophers annoy the religious. Let them clash, but let them have a refuge from each other, yes?
Then please create a topic that would easily seperate the two. Religious people are obviously being singled out because they do not follow the same line of reasoning as philosophers, and visa versa. Philosophers have no faith, while the religious lack cynicism. Creating a discusion that tests both attributes could help some to come to a better understanding of existance. Which is what we should all be trying to do. Right?
sort of.. except i think it is a flaw to be adamently faithful or faithless and you arent going to come to a better understanding of existance by putting the faithful and the faithless next to eachother. Rather they must both try to become eachother, and we cant tell people to drop their thinking to be like the people they disagree with most.
Well there are disciplines in philosophy that deal with the divine, religion etc, and within philosophie there have been varied responses by various philosophers. But still, I really agree, it's a really different discipline altogether, and I'd love to see a subforum here where philosophy can be discussed. The great philosophers of philosophy's history, current developments, etc. Who would be the one to work on something like this to actually make it possible? Somne moderator here?
It's been said that religion is to philosophy as alchemy is to chemistry or astrology is to astronomy. I'd agree with that.
I like religion and philosophy being together, but there really should be a religion subforum and a philosophy subforum I think. Or they should be separated.
Agreed completely. I was actually about to make a request for the same thing. There's a subforum for seemingly every loopy religion or spiritual group so why can't we have one for each branch of philosophy?
And we need an ethics subforum where people don't talk about religious ethics. Completely seperate philosophy and religion ones would be best.
I concur. Why can't we all just get along? By modern standards (the common interpretation of the word "philosophy," ie. a belief system/way of thought?) isn't religion a philosophy? It goes against the ancient notion of philosophy I believe in, aka the sum total of all, but most follow the modern notion. Indeed we do.....especially because one does not need a religious doctrine to tell them what is right and wrong. However are there concrete right and wrongs without one? I don't mean to derail this thread, but perhaps we could discuss that...
I'm an existentialist. Because there is no objective meaning in this world, there is no objective definition of right and wrong. I prefer to use Good and Evil. By experience I have found that goodness right for me and evil is wrong for me. What is good and what is evil is up for debate too of course, but generally causing harm to others is evil and helping others is goodness.
True. Although intersubjectivity gives us many examples of things that the vast majority of people consider harm. Even more reasons why there is no objective definition of right and wrong. It's purely up to the individual.
When I first came to this site about sixteen quadrillion years ago there were about three forums; music, ....and, ah....two others, or so; and that was it. Everything had to be hashed out in the open, all opinions were viewed by all and you got to know almost everyone on the site. Now we have forums within forums all over the place. Hard to exchange ideas when all the forums are so specialized...
