Is it hypocritical to feed meat to your pets?

This is the vegetarian folder. See the title of my thread.

 

I'm aware of that.
Are you aware that the majority of the people you have talked to in this thread aren't vegetarian?

 

Yeah, that is weird.

I saw this debate once on another vegan forum and they were all screaming that they feed their dogs vegan diets and that just veggies are actually better and more nutritious for the dogs than feeding them meat.

 

Sorry, NOT! She was thirsty and crying beside the side of the road. She was not feral, she wanted to come with me because the previous humans that had dumped her there to die had taken care of her until that point. Her age was an estimate made by the vet.

 

15 is pretty old for a cat anyways.

 

first off,you would be amazed at how quickly a animals instincts kick in. dont say a domesticated animal couldnt revert to being wild because i have seen it happen over and over again.

secondly,its called nature,survival of the fittest. by having a domesticated animal you are putting a cog in the wheel of evolution. sure some domesticated animals wouldnt survive very long,while others would thrive and as i said,within a generation or two all the domestication would be gone.

i have a great Pyrenees who has never been trained to fend for himself. while he is domesticated,his instinct is to kill and eat anything that moves..lol

i have a cocker spaniel who has never been trained to hunt. his instinct is the same.
both these animals have been bred to be domesticated animals and both still have the hunting instinct.

i think if you took most aniimals and put them in a prey rich environment you would find their instincts kick in rather quickly and what you percieve to be true about domesticated animals isnt true at all..

have you ever saw a school to train cats to catch mice? of course not,yet how often do people bring kittens home at 6 weeks old and months or years later have the cat kill a mouse??

its their INSTINCT!

i think people use the "domesticated" label as a justification for their keeping a animal far too much.

 

Dogs are omnivorous and can not only survive, but thrive on a vegan diet. That being said, I have two dogs and a cat, they all eat meat based dog/cat food. I'm vegan, but my animals aren't. The reason I don't feed my dogs a vegan diet is, I'm lazy. I can barely bother to make sure I get enough of the right food daily, let along makeing sure my dogs' nutrisional needs are met. I know it's hypocritical, and I know it helps an indestry that I hate. But that's just where I am with it. Flame me if you like, but it won't change me. My dogs do not like my diet. When I'm done eating sometimes I give the scraps to my dogs, they don't eat most of it. If I had a child that told me it wanted to eat meat, I would cook a separate meal for the child. Just like if I still ate meat and my child wanted to go vegan, same thing. My dogs can't tell me that they are cool with going vegan or not (except if you count them turning down the veggie dish), so I go with the easy way.

 

The slaughtered animals can't say they want to end up in a bag on the shelf at Pet Smart. They don't say, "I want Tisha's dogs to eat me!"

feeding slaughtered meat to a carnivore from an animal's choice perspective makes no sense to me if it means killing other sentient animals for their meat without their consent

 

plants cant say they wish to wind upon your plates either..

im of the belief that all things harvested for our consumption deserve the same respect and reverence whether modern science has deemed them to have a thought process and feelings or not.

i dont see why just because a animal has a brain it should be treated any different than a plant we kill to consume.

thats why out of all vegetarians i have the utmost respect for true vegans or what is now called "fruititarians". those who only consume that which does not kill the plant to harvest it.

the rest is just semantics. a factory farm is a factory farm be it for meat or veggies in my eyes.

thats why we grow all our own food. both meat and veggies..

 

This just makes me sad. Dumping DOMESICATED animals out to die is not the answer to ANYTHING.

 

I guess this is the heartwarming story you were thinking of when you spoke of a "prey rich environment":


http://www2.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2009-05/07/content_7753693.htm

 

so... what if you owned a dog that went out and hunted for what it wanted?
And you were the reason that it is alive today?
So that one dog wouldn't have died, but now that you rescued it, they are now going out and killing raccoons and such.
would this be a problem, or are we only discussing things like dog food.

 

yeah pretty much.. i did say survival of the fittest. its a cold cruel world for wildlife.

where do you think the phrase "dog eat dog world" comes from anyway??

 

By introducing husbanded animals into the wild, you are messing up the ecology. This is especially true if large numbers of such dogs are hunting for wild food. They are unfairly competing with natural predators, who don't have the advantaages that husbanded dogs have, such as a warm place to stay and sleep and recuperate from the stress of hunting, grooming to remove fleas and other energy-sapping parasites. There is no way a wolf can compete with a dog who is cared for by a human and has less worries.

 

Domesticated animals are not "wild life"..they're not wild! they're domesticated!

 

are Fish ok?
:leaving:

 

As pets? There are dead animals in fish flakes.

 

and if you left them to their own they would be completely wild in no time at all.

"domesticated" dogs dont need humans to survive. people just like to think we are needed.

come stay around here for a while and ill teach ya a bit about animal instinct,survival of the fittest and evolution..

once again, domesticated cats and dogs,left to fend for themselves would return to wild animals that they came from much faster than it took we humans to try and breed it out of them.

sure some cute and cuddly breeds would cease to exist. oh fucking well,thats the natural cycle of things..


google feral dogs. they dont need you,you just like to think they do. makes ya feel all warm and fuzzy dont it??

 

Examples of feral animals

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral

face it,you train them to not be wild.

 

No. Thinking about the starving and dieing dogs that people ditch everyday doesn't make me feel "warm and fuzzy" that they are out there, confused, dieing, not being able to find food or survive - actually, it makes me pretty ****ing sick.
I think you should do some rescue work with strays. It might give you a needed attitude adjustment.