Is it hypocritical to feed meat to your pets?

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  1. Eavesdrop

    Eavesdrop Member

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    So you ARE condoning the slaughtering of animals by humans. If you don't see a problem with it, why can't you have a Big Mac?
     
  2. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    Well, I could have a Big Mac, but seeing as how they are horrible for you and disgusting, I won't.
    Note that my decision not to eat Big Macs has nothing to do with the fact that there is meat in it.
     
  3. Asmodean

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    I said that, right? But it's better for multiple reasons, like they get all the nutrients they need at once and their breath won't smell as bad ;). It's not a solution to get rid of your hypocrisy feelings, no.
     
  4. Asmodean

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    Look, in short it comes to this: whatever motives you have for not eating meat, they don't apply to your dog. A dog does wants to eat it. So the solutions are 1) get rid of your dog if it bothers you too much, or 2) deal with the fact your dog has not the same eating habits as you.
     
  5. Eavesdrop

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    My dog won't eat dog food. He hates it. I don't have hypocrisy feelings. I just finished my chicken sandwich with mayo that contained eggs. I do appreciate the advice tho.

    If your motive for not eating meat is the belief that the human slaughter of animals is inhumane; how could that not apply to your dog? The slaughtered animals are just as inhumanely slaughterified if they're fed to your dog as if you eat them yourself.

    All I'm saying is; if you're gung-ho enough about this issue to go total veg yourself; I don't get how you can justify owning a dog.
     
  6. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I fully agree :) A dog needs meat.

    About the dog food, it can be the brand. Our dog didn't touch some of them neither :D
     
  7. behindthesun93

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    unlike humans, carnivorous pets need meat.
     
  8. Eavesdrop

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    but humans don't need carnivorous pets

    Slaughtering animals to feed animals in not natural. I understand why vegans feed their pets non-vegan foods but I think they need to step up and admit that this is hypocritical.

    We know that coyotes love to eat cats and small dogs. If one had a coyote as a pet I wonder how many of these owners of cats and small dogs would be willing to hand them over to feed the coyote. No no, choose another animal, way over there, that I've never seen and never met, and that I won't watch get slaughtered.
     
  9. BraveSirRubin

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    I guess the logical solution here would be:

    If you're a vegan, and have a dog...

    Then you must kill said dog because you shouldn't have a carnivorous pet which contradicts your diet.

    Don't eat the dog after you kill it though, that would be even slightly more hypocritical.

    But don't stop other dogs, which aren't yours, from eating the dead dog.
     
  10. Eavesdrop

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    If the goal of veganism is loving animals as has been suggested, then wouldn't euthanizing one dog to save the many animals it will eat in its lifetime technically more vegan? I mean, you love your dog but do you not also love the animals that he eats? What gives your dog's life more value? Isn't that speciesist, and doesn't speciesism defeat the whole purpose of being vegan and loving animals?
     
  11. neodude1212

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    That makes no sense. Things eat other things. Just the way it is, and nothing can stop it. If you are willing to kill something to stop it from eating something else, then you might as well just go ahead and kill everything.
     
  12. BraveSirRubin

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    I think that vegans would secretly like to kill everything that isn't vegan.
     
  13. Eavesdrop

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    I thought the point of veganism was to stop the slaughter industry.

    Nature intended animals to hunt, kill and eat each other. That is something entirely different from saying to a lamb "you must be slaughtered because I need to feed my dog". The dog isn't slaughtering the lamb. That's YOUR decision.

    So the choice breaks down to:
    a) Perpetuate the unethical intensive meat-farming industry;
    b) Switch to the veggie food that claims to be a complete diet;
    c) Get rid of the dog - you have no business having a carnivorous companion.
    d) go eat a Big Mac so you won't be a hypocrite anymore


    The vegans I know are intolerant, narrow-minded, elitist and most likely capable of killing anything that isn't vegan. And they all feed their dogs meat.
     
  14. Bonkai

    Bonkai Later guys

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    I know, a good deal of them seem so judgmental.b
     
  15. BraveSirRubin

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    Yes indeed.


    I should start feeding my dog vegans.
     
  16. Fluffernutter

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    The problem with this is that animals like dogs and cats have been domesticated and are no longer the animals they would have been had not people interfered with their nature thousands of years ago.

    Neither my dog or cat could live in this world on their own for very long. In fact I saved my cat from the life you are suggesting for her. I found her up in the mountains while berry picking. A dangerous place for a 6 lb 15 yr old cat.
     
  17. neodude1212

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    And you consider your suggestion of euthuanizing pets isn't slaughter?



    So let me get this straight, it isn't important to you that things are slaughtered, the important thing is who does the slaughtering.
    Well, if you want to get downright technical, I'm sure the highly intelligent and self-aware lamb and cow that us humans should bow down to would probably prefer being very quickly executed by humans, rather than being chased down in a cacophony of fear and then having their throats quite violently and brutally ripped out as they gasp for air and gurgle in their own blood.
    But hey, if a dog slaughters, it's ok. If humans do it, it's bad, right?
    Why do I have no business having a carnivorous companion? Are you really telling me that I'm not "allowed" to have a dog under some backwards moralistic code that vainly attempts to defy nature? And why do I have to eat a big mac not to be a hypocrite?
    And before you jump the gun again, you do realize that I eat meat practically every day, and I really don't give a shit about my dog eating meat either?
     
  18. neodude1212

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    The fact that she was 15 when you found her goes a long way towards proving his point.
     
  19. Eavesdrop

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    I consider my "suggestion" NO different from contributing to the slaughter industry by purchasing meat to feed my dog.


    I could counter that by going into detail about the horrific lives and painful deaths the animals that are "quickly executed by humans" suffer but I won't.

    Yes.

    According to most vegans, yes.

    If you believe contributing to the slaughter industry is morally wrong you have no business owning a carnivorous companion.

    You don't. It could be KFC or a hot dog or just a pizza with sausage.

    So, why are you getting all riled up about this?
     
  20. neodude1212

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    Because you keep directing your sentiments towards me as if I am a vegan or something, which I don't really understand.
     
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