It's been a while so here's a pic dump/update

I said you sounded bitchy, just because I'm a mod doesn't mean I can't have an opinion!

 

How do you know that the placenta isn't the perfect food for mommy after birth? It has all sorts of hormones, and chemistry that have been depleted, obviously, in the mother after birth. After espousing your belief in evolution, do you really believe that man, who has been earnestly studying western style medicine for less than 200 years, has a better chance of helping new mommies than nature, who knows exactly what mommies need?
You may find it disgusting, but so many of nature's systems and processes could be desribed thus, but it doesn't make them any less efficient.

 

Once again, I didnt say anything like this. I said it was gross. That was all.

And I tend to believe doctors for the most part. I respect anyone with an education and who has studied at advanced levels.

 

by the way, whut?

 

Gross is a synonym for disgusting. And as far as doctors, many admit limited knowledge of what traditions are just superstition and what traditions are medically beneficial. After all, shamans and mid-wives are traditions going back millennia, doctors in the western sense, only a few hundred years...

 

Sure, but they are SYNTHETIC. Not a mother's ACTUAL hormones. Science isn't exact, it's science, yk?

Honestly - "fucking disgusting" is a bit inflammatory. We get it, you think it's "fucking gross" and "fucking this" and "fucking that." So how about you just don't "fucking do it" and don't "fucking worry" about what others have received many benefits from if it's that "fucking bad."

FWIW I didn't post a link to the placenta blog, nor did I invite you to look at the homepage. You did that on your own freewill then asked for a disclaimer for something I had no clue that you would do. So deal with it.

She did it for her third child and was able to skip the antidepressants altogether. It was really awesome. There were enough capsules for a 3 month supply.

I never said that people wouldn't be okay without doing this. I don't deny that many mothers are just fine without doing this.

And in a way it saddens me that when you see a placenta all you see is a bloody sac, it is so much more than that when it inside of a mother and even once it is out. It isn't just some disgusting bloody sac. And I am not trying be snarky, honest.

And people don't do it just because it's natural. But it works! It helps mothers from postpartum hemorrhage, postpartum depression...I can see how this may mean very little to you if aren't a mother. And it stinks that you can't see the benefit in something such as this without just saying "it's fucking gross." It's more than that

Not so much. It's one thing for you guys to bash my "not natural enough for you dreads" and something I did to help someone prone to a serious condition but don't attack me.

I wasn't trying to be bitchy, I was trying to explain something to someone who is obviously very closed minded on a particular subject. Sometimes that gets tricky. But you compared placenta to feces and that was way off base, man...

And just because she is a mod doesn't mean she has to wear the mod hat all the time. She is still entitled to her opinion, yk?

I don't think it's sacred, I think it is beneficial. And anything that helps bring forth life shouldn't be revered as repulsive, that's just sad sad sad.

There are plenty of ways to be healthy after birth, this being included. No one said it was the only way

 

Thankyou...................................

 

very well said mamamojo :cheers2:

 

ban everyone participating in this thread

 

:troll: or is it just me?

 

wouldnt expect you to understand such a simple expression

 

Science is pretty accurate. Based on trial and error. But there is no point in debating this any further. We're just going in circles.

And I have said 3748494 times. I never said it wasn't healthy, I said it was disgusting

 

its only disgusting if ur the one eating it lol even then alotta things are disgusting and ppl still do em

 

I tend to trust in methods that have worked for centuries; that is why I am working on my masters in herbalism.
Did you know that doctors are wrong in their initial dignoses 75% of the time?

And they cannot alter hormonal medication to match every woman's needs. I have tried every birth control there is, and all of them gave me horrible side effects and I got pregnant while on birth control, as did my sisters. Women's hormones are very complex and are hard to regulate and balance, especially after childbirth. Synthetic hormones are not the answer for all women.

It is sad how our society has made womens cycles shameful and gross. In many societies, moon blood was valued as powerful magic and was used in healings, spells and other rituals.

 

hence why I said science is based on trial and error. And did you know 95% of statistics are made up on the spot

And that is why I said in most cases. There are always odd cases where they can't.

In many societies, they believe saying words and praying will heal the sick aswell. And if you believe spells work you are delusional

 

At what university are you doing this at? I can't find any that have studies in this field

 

Actually I pulled that statistic out of my herbalism text books and medical journals...multiple reputable sources all citing the same stat.

I thought you also said that you respect those with experience and education....I have been studying herbalism, the human body and womens health for almost 7 years now, where's my respect? lol

I am studying at Dominion Herbal College, one of the best herbal schools in North America.
ETA: I have taken additional courses with various schools as well, would you like me to list them all?

 

Colleges can't hand out a Master's degree. To get a masters you need a bachelor degree first from university. Then you study under someone with a PhD and they sign your masters.

It looks like this school is a career college from what I've read

 

Whatever Pat, I have studied for 7 years at accredited schools in the fields of herbalism, womens health and other alternative healing therapies.
No, these courses are not available in universities, but that does not make them any less informative or valid or official.
Dominion College was established in 1926, making it one of the oldest and most respected institutions of its kind. It is the only place that I could find that offers a Master Herbalist course. This diploma is recognised in all health fields as the highest level of education available in herbalism. Doctors also recognise my education and give me respect as I work with them, and help our shared patients.

 

Yeah that's all fine and dandy. But you're not getting a "masters".

Maybe these courses aren't at real universities because they're not deemed as real fields of study