Here is a theory I have been pondering for some time: out of anarchy emerges government. I'm sure there is some religious system based on "out of chaos emerges order," but it's not really the same as my theory being that so many people think government is the ultimate bad guy, not chaos. Anyway, this is how it goes. There is no government, everyone is free to do what they want, when they want, however they want. Sounds pretty sweet, huh? I will admit, there are numerous pluses, namely drugs (at least in my opinion. No DEA is a plus). But, there are far more negative aspects, namely that anarchy can't last. Anarchy is based, or at least seems to be based, on the principle that people will put up with each other. The fact that this just doesn't apply to real people on any scale past miniature should be pretty obvious. Lets say you and you wife/mate/favorite rape victim are just walking along, and some other prick comes by and decides hes gonna take your girl(or guy) for his/herself. This would peeve you a little I imagine, and you would do one of two things: fight or flight. You would kill the motherfucker or die trying, or just stand there while he does his business. Well, chances are someone would see this or hear about it, and decide it's "wrong," then go out to "fix the problem," namely kill you (if you killed the guy) or kill the guy (if he took your girl). Of course, with our population, there would be more than one person who thinks whatever happened is "wrong" and these people would group up and get rid of people who aren't like them, de facto forming a "government." My point is that you can't have chaos, it won't work, at least for human society. Some form of government or establishment or "the man" will eventually form. We are just too varied for us to ignore whats happening to others and be compatible with each other on the long term. Eventually, everyone has a bad day, and that bad day for any one of our 6 billion people means the end of feasible anarchy. As soon as someone gets pissed off and decides to fuck with someone else, anarchy is fucked. Government breeds anarchy, anarchy breeds government. The whole reason we have order is because of chaos. Of course, if this is an already established path of thinking, ill admit now that I'm an ignorant fuck who failed to read up on this shit before talking about it. But I don't mean related path or thought, i mean has someone said the same thing as I just did. The Mushroom Man
Well that is kinda the downfall of Anarchy...it doesn't work, because people don't like people basically, they're greedy etc, only takes one to destroy it for many, it might come out ok on paper for a very small community, but then its pretty much comunism? unless they all keep to themselves, if we were all robots both anarchy and communism would both work, but we're not, we have aspirations, we covet, greed etc
If it were run buy robots... that used to be a dream of mine, but then I saw that Will Smith movie...
No one knows what would ultimately happen, as it's never been tried. Because some shmucks will come along and insist on running things, and the rest will be too lazy to stop them. We can theorize on what anarchy creates all we want. But it's like this. We want what we can't have, so we go looking. Pretty soon we are all standing on the edge looking over, but it's too far down and pretty soon people start backing away from the edge because they are afraid of the consequences. But what WOULD happen if people stopped being afraid? We don't know. Heck, we might even be able to fly! But We'd never find out. So, no laws. Some fool rapes yer girl. You shoot the guy. But you are not alone. MOST people have no time for rapists, so you are actually part of an army. Rapists are in the minority. After a while, without interference, rapists begin to suspect that if they continue to practice their craft, their life expectancy can be expected to be greatly reduced. Rape begins to equal suicide... Trouble is, we can never get to this point, because we are not allowed. So no one really knows if Anarchy would work or not, because the situation is never allowed to evolve on it's own.
You're right, anarchy wouldn't work in reality. Most proponents of anarchism are utopian anarchists. They wish for a world where everyone was as peaceful and selfless as them because in that world government and law wouldn't be needed. Most anarchists don't generally have any aspirations to put their beliefs into practice.
I'm not a total anarchist, but I think that things should be done locally. Centralization of power is the problem. People will be bad, in my opinion bad means what you do to others not yourself. Centralization of power with "community standards" legal logic speak for "we" the powers that be decide what the community standards are not you!. The further away from the people this power goes the more draconian the powers that be become. If the powers that be lived where you live they would have to explain to their neighbors why they were doing what they are doing. Try calling your congressperson, you'll talk to a assistant who could care less about your concerns. Try calling your neighbor who is a bureaucrat and tell them your concerns, you'll get a different response. The farther away the PBT are the more easily they become draconian. I don't believe there could be a completely be a anarchist society, but keeping the bureaucrats close is the solution. Peace Dan
Mr dude hit it on the head. There are no two anarchists who agree with the same values/and or what a anarchist society truly means. People as an animal like rules(we pretend not too, but we actually like them) it keeps our stress levels down and makes life a tad more predictable(in a good way)-but this can lead to facism if the powers that be remain unchecked(like now, they are so swollen with power and integrated in the system that they have become the system and the system is now a tool of the elite). Oh, and crime and punishment will become sort of self regulating after a while-The reason rapists get away with so much today is because the system will defend their life from pissed off vigilant citizens who will do the castrations themselves. I know I wouldn't wanna mess with some girl if it was perfectly acceptable for her daddy to come get my ass later(which would be in any sane anarchist commune) For some reason a lot of people can't accept the fact that human beings are actually rather self regulating-All the issues were facing are global conflicts and products of facist and greedy world leaders.
