question for the well experienced

Hello forum!!

I would not consider myself an extremely experienced tripper, I've taken about 10 or 15 trips since i started this year. I recently came into a new batch of LSD and I needed to ask some experienced trippers.

The visuals I had for the longest time were all the same (always 3+ tabs). squares would polarize and shake in front of my eyes like large pixels, blending and recurring (as the best way to describe it). the source was always the same and was created at the same time. the tabs were white with small black circle designs on them.
The last time i tripped my guy gave me some new stuff, the front was colorful and had the eye of RA printed on it, with the tab squared off with a black line on the back. These tabs gave me completely new visuals. the main form seemed to be triangles, you could see the shape of peoples faces defined by multiple triangles flowing into each other layered on their faces.

both visuals were confirmed by the trippers i was with and they too noticed the same difference. Im inclined to consider it LSA but i have read about nausea being included in an LSA trip, which was not the case. Can someone please describe what is the difference? are they a different related drug? is it the same drug with extremely small differences in combination of the chemicals?

Thanks to anyone who has an answer

 

it is the same drug. you will get different visuals every time you do acid. every time you do anything. just like when you open your eyes in the real world, you see something different every single second of your life.

Even with your 'squares' vs 'triangles' hits, your visuals were actually much more complex, you are just simplifying, there was much more to it than that.

LSA cannot fit on blotter, because a much, much higher dose is required of it. Small blotters are LSD. Larger ones are sometimes RCs, and if you want an LSA trip you must enter the land of the hawaiian baby woodrose seeds or morning glory seeds.

people will say that different batches of lsd produce different effects, but aside from the possible psychological effect of precursors and impurities on the tab, lsd = lsd = lsd.

the 'different batch' phenomenon has never happened to me so i must go with my gut and say that, just like 'getting vibes' from your dealer which influence your trip, this is 100% placebo.

 

I'm going to have to disagree with Mr. Writer's observation that LSD = LSD = LSD.

Precursors and impurities will have a significant impact on how fast the drug comes on, how smooth and enjoyable the peak is, among other things. The dirtier the crystal, the longer the drug takes to come on (can take upwards of 2-3 hours with some dirty amber), the visuals are not usually as deep and flowing (this is somewhat a hard concept to explain to some people), but most of all is the brainfried feeling you get off of dirty crystals. If you get the clean stuff it is a truly mind-blowing experience that will rip your ego apart and leave you with a deeper more insightful view of the direction you are headed in life.

Not to mention poorly cleaned doses will often leave you feeling pretty nasty on the way down, oftentimes you will get a terrible headache for a day, but this is not always the case and I believe it has to do with what the actual impurities are.

I just had a huge argument with my connect over the latest round of shit he pawned off on a bunch of my friends. Its dirty shit, if you eat enuff you still trip but its quite evident they didn't get their process quite right. Personally I would rather eat mushrooms than acid like this, as I find the hazy trip to be rather uncomfortable. Please note halucinogens, and LSD in particular are very powerful mind-altering substance and experiences and things you percieve while on the drug can have a tangible, lasting impact on your psychological state... I ended up ripping him a new one over those hobo doses he sold us (this liquid is very amber w/ what looks like little hunks of brown shit that wouldnt dissolve into the ethanol) and he got really upset about me spreading "bad word" about his product... needless to say I think I won't be calling him anymore.

If someone sold you a bag of brown cocaine would you blow it? Also, the active ingredients in marijuana are THC and other cannabinoids, but it should be quite evident to many of you that quality of product makes an enormous difference in quantitative pleasures received from said drug.

 

stay away from morning glories.
a friend of mine once ate around 300 of them
he excused himself after a while
came out of the bathroom
2 hours later
had shitted so hard he had passed out on the toilet
shitting so hard, thought he was gonna die from shitting
praying to God lol
there was shit all over that bathroom
good thing it wasn't my place
we left without cleaning
- morning glory

 

The one thing i would disagree with the placebo theory is that while my dealer mentioned he was not aware of the potency and to be careful, I went into the trip expecting similar visuals to the 10 or so trips that had all been the same before. So my brain was not changing the visuals based on priming from my dealer. Also the trippers I was with also agreed with the triangles and squares visuals. But dont get me wrong, of course i'm aware of way over simplifying the visuals, I don't know another way to describe it. But thank you for enlightening me about the LSA.

I'm going to chalk it up to process and impurities then, as doubledama described. Thank you for your detailed help!!

 

Not sure you can fit anything substantial on the blotter that can upset you except maybe cyanide?. I mean...how much dirt can you fit on a tab?

Headache=not enough water

Did you ever think that your uncomfortable hazy trip was at all to do with your mood, set and setting at the time? That WAS your trip!

Impurities will not change the come up time unless it's some MAOI or something. LSD is LSD or it's not LSD.

 

^ nonsense... I've layed more sheets than you've seen in your life and I can assure you there are profound differences in the quality of the trip from batch to batch. Non psychotropic alkaloids and LSD cycloalkamides bond to the same neural receptors as the real stuff. When only 5 millionths of a gram passes the blood/brain barrier, how can you positively say impurities will not have an impact on your trip? Mind you I am no neurochemist, I just call them like I see/feel them... And I've tripped acid more times than I care to admit.

 

I'm just a doofus that don't know shit. Sorry oh great 4 post sheet layer!

 

Be careful i dont want to see any smiting haha

 

I do

 

:smilielol5:...

 

eace:

 

you sound like you know what youre talking about doubledama, just makes me want to get some clean lucy

 

i'd be happy with a dirty white girl

 

apparently not enough otherwise you would have lost the condescending tone.

 

much "verbage" to say little. Impurities or precursors don't change lsd. It either is lsd or not. Sure something else might be in there but it doesn't change the chemical make up of lsd. Maybe adds to it but can't change it or it's not lsd. Period. Your thc analogy...it's still thc...right?

Then you go and spread "bad words" about your dealer? Best to just cut your losses and move on. Didn't lsd teach you this?

 

LSD has taught the good doctor a great many things about life. As long as you eat LSD you will trip, I'm not debating that with you... I am simply stating that from my experience these impurities certainly play a role in the quality of the trip, especially at large doses.

Now, I know more than a few people who couldn't tell much difference between said "hobo" doses and the fluff, but for me the difference is fairly evidence especially if I take it more than once a month. Beg your pardon for sounding somewhat confrontational earlier this week, I was probably feeling a bit grumpy after 12 hours in the office on speed and getting stuck with a 10pack of 30mic hobo hits... there really is no excuse for that even if I feel that someone is spreading false information.


There's something going on in TN next week my hobbit friend tells me. He also says he is bringing a very pale, white, well endowed female with him