woohoo! cheap beer!

Well, that's no fun then.

 

yeah its hard to find many pictures of their more recent labeling on google images. i did post a pic on page one though.

rat, i've heard really good things about genesee bock actually, but its usually hard enough to find the cream ale where i am. i've never seen the bock, only heard of it. i dont think it's even distributed in indiana or ohio

 

Didn't see the pic... my adblock is probably blocking it.

 

some different examples

 

Probably not.

I've only seen it at one grocery store chain even here in the Rochester area.

They started carrying it around March, and their supplies ran out about two weeks ago. Hopefully they make it again next year, because this is the first year in decades they started making it again. They first discontinued it back in the 70s.

 

Hahah...

 

just checked - there is a report on BA of someone getting it at a store in cincinatti called jungle jims. but then you're supposed to be able to get virtually anything you want there, it has an amazing reputation for variety and selection in everything they carry. enormous megagrocery

 

Ingredients

4 cups whole wheat (sprouted) Boil them and make a soup
1 cup of molloasses
6 cups sugar syrup (made by heating sugar with a little water)
7 tbl spoons yeast

Mix up and wait,

Takes 5 days for the yeast to eat the sugar, last night I had two 12 oz glasses and got very tippsey.

Made it last Friday night, should be done Thursday.

Alcohol content 15%

 

prohibition is over, theres no need to drink that kind of swill anymore, and i garauntee you it will not come out to 15% ABV - especially not using bread yeast and not in that short period of time.

try making some good beer
http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Home...=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1243952565&sr=8-3
http://www.homebrewing.org/

 

Ahh a beer discussion. That reminds me, can anyone tell me about Lambic? What is it, is it supposed to be good? I saw some the other day at the store and the label piqued my interest.

 

lambic is a most unusual category of beer, and puts most people off quite a lot.

if you don't mind me asking, do you remember anything from the label besides the word lambic, and do you remember if it is imported or domestic?

traditionally, lambics are wheat beers made in a region of belgium where a particular variety of airborne bacteria exist naturally. lambics are spontaneously fermented. this means that instead of using closed, very sterile containers and isolated strains of yeast for the fermentation and conditioning, they ferment the beer in open vats! the beer is exposed to all the wild yeasts and bacterias present in its environment, and this is what ferments the beer and gives it a very unique, funky character. the primary difference between lambics and other beers, such as saisons, which make use of wild yeasts is the presence of bacteria such as Brettanomyces lambicus. these bacteria give the beer a very dry, tart and often downright sour flavor.

there are several styles of lambics, but in the US the most widely consumed lambics are those which have fruit added to them for flavoring. the most famous is the belgian brewery, Lindemans, but others such as Liefman's and domestic fruit beers using cultured bacteria and yeasts from belgian beers also are on the market. the most famous are probably the kriek (cherry) and the framboise (raspberry)

lindemans fruit lambics are probably so popular because they are very heavy on the fruit. they are quality beers, and lambics are among the only fruit beers that are any good as far as i'm concerned, but i tend to prefer a few other brewers who use a bit less fruit and have more of the characteristics of the beer itself which are noticible.

they use real fruit, so the color of the beer is changed depending on the flavor. as you can see, kriek is dark cherry red with a pink head, but pomme (apple) and peche (peach) look more like normal beers.


nonfruit lambics will usually be very dry compared to the fruit lambics, but will maintain the tart qualities brought in by the bacteria.

there are several varieties of lambic beyond the fruit, most of which are blended lambics (mixing different batches to get a superb flavor, as is done with wine - many lambics are aged, too)

the flavor of nonfruit lambics is very, very different than that of most other varieties of beer, and the fact that proper lambic is made only in a certain part of belgium, is aged and blended meticulously, and must be imported makes it a very expensive style of beer as well, with 75cl bottles often running 15-20 dollars per bottle for some of the high-end stuff. because the flavor is so unique and DEFINITELY an acquired taste, and because it is often quite expensive, most people find lambics to be rather inaccessable. i drink them very rarely even when i have money, and now that i really can't afford good beers very often at all i virtually never drink them. one of the only nonfruit lambics i've tried in the past is Oude Geuze Boon Mariage Parfait. it is a lambic in the gueuze style ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambic#Gueuze ). it is a bit higher in alcohol than most lambics, and i've usually seen it in small but heavy 11cl bottles with a champagne style cork in them.


if you try a lambic, the most appropriate glass for it would be a champagne flute or something similar in most cases, such as a narrow wine glass. something heavier and higher in alcohol such as the one i just mentioned might do well in a snifter.

lambics are obscure, an acquired taste (save the fruit lambics, which friends who hate beer still enjoy), and expensive, but enthusiasts would say they're among the most elegant, refined, and complex styles of beer there are. i enjoy them, but i prefer other beers more often

 

oh yeah, and if you get a bottle, often as you can see in the first pic (the kriek) there can be a LOT of head even from a gentle, careful pour. but as you might guess given the second pic (the peche) it doesnt stick around long at all. its very much like champagne in this superficial regard.

 

Thanks Nesta, for such an informative response. That is very interesting. Clearly you know beer.

I just remember that it looked like either of the first two pictures you posted.

 

Yes, I did notice that. I like how it's so PINK! Lol.
I'm almost out of the Sierra Nevada I got last time, I'll have to give that lambic a try when I go back to the store.

 

i can't currently afford to slake my thirst for trying new beers and expanding my horizons and enjoying great beers on a regular basis, but i am passionate about beer if i'm passionate about anything. i love drinking it, learning about it, talking about it, sharing it, brewing it.....*sigh* its just so expensive

than it will be good and tasty, thats for sure. it will be tart, not too very sour, and fairly sweet with a strong fruit flavor. imagine fruit wine - but sparkling. all natural, high quality ingredients. its pricey, but worth trying for a change of pace, if you're open to the idea of a fruit beer. heres a breakdown of most of the flavors (there should also be pictures if you don't know the names of the fruits)

peche=peach
kriek=cherry
framboise=raspberry
pomme=apple
cassis=black currant

also, i mistakenly noted earlier that liefmans makes fruit lambics, but i have just found out i was wrong. liefmans makes fruit beers using a different style of beer for their base (oud bruin, a variety of brown ale) rather than a lambic. still, its similar in nature and quite tasty

 

Stop by and see for yourself, I'll bet you can't drink a quart in one hour with out being trashed.

It's not swill, it's a sweet carmel flavored ale. Does not have any anti clouding agents that are known to affect male hormones.

I guess you could not kick your dog today and I was convenient.

As to the alcohol content you'll have to see it.

I live at 8000 feet above sea level.

Good ale, for cheap.

 

PS my next test will be orange ale.

 

That's cool. I don't know much about beer yet, until recently I just drank it to get drunk, mostly 40s and whatever was there, but my friend is into microbrews and stuff and I've been trying all these different beers. My favorites so far are Fat Tire and Magic Hat and this other one that I forgot the name of. Lol, I was nervous typing those up because maybe you'll say they're horrible beers.

 

magic hat makes some good beers, though #9, which is quite popular, isn't really my cup of tea. good brewery, though.

and fat tire is very nice.:cheers2: