4-Fluoroamphetamine - My WARNING

Okay everyone. I am feeling near death and nodding off but I feel like I HAVE to share this experience here because I know so many of you, like I, love to experiment with the newest stuff out there.
Sunday morning 10AM I took 80mgs or so (I'm sensitive to amphetamines, so low dose to start). Was feeling pretty damn good most of the day except dizziness when I stood up or when from outside to inside (lighting change).
I really need to warn you guys of the AWFUL, LONG comedown. I began coming down pretty bad around 5pm Sunday night and took another small dose around 7pm. The second dose took a long time to kick in, but eventually I was feeling good again. The second comedown was ridiculously worse, and I am still suffering from it. It includes the following (I will try to keep it in order of how it came about)
- Continuing jaw clenching (side effect while high as well)
- Depression
- Dizziness
- Constant hot/cold
- Severe cold sweats
- Vertigo
- Complete long term lack of appetite (I haven't consumed a full, substantial meal since before I took the drug. And the little I have eaten has been very difficult and forced)
- Muscle soreness
- Incredible weakness
- Insomnia
- Laziness
- Mild nausea
- Racing heart (my heart is JUST now starting beat at a normal pace..BUT it's still beating hard to where I can feel it)
- Erratic breathing/shortness of breath (very difficult to take a deep breath)
- ...and last but not least...this happened about 4 hours ago, I had a severe panic attack. I was at work and was feeling so sick my boyfriend had to come get me out early and walk me out because I was so dizzy. The entire situation was so aggravating and scary at this point that I started panicking, which only made the heart rate/breathing this worse. I was shaking uncontrollably and crying. I am calmer now after taking a very small dose of a benzo (because I'm actually kicking benzos after mild addiction. WAS 5 days clean til today in this emergency) and some Melatonin (some organic, natural, over the counter sleep aid.

Speaking of sleep I am in dire need.
I feel like death.
I know everyone reacts differently to various drugs, and this one is pretty new so there isn't a whole lot of readily available data on it, but from MY experience it was TOTALLY not worth this hell.
I will NEVER do 4-fluoroamphetamine again. There are better amphetamines out there in my opinion. I just HAD to be the guinea pig.
I hope my sharing helps. Just a heads up.
Play safe!

 

except for the depression and what not, it sounds like a come down of e or something like that. maybe its the amount of times your body can only handle it in a day. if you just took the first dose and had the comedown of that, do you think it would of been lighter?

 

Not sure. I only gave myself 2 hours of comedown after the first dose but I recall the cold sweats being the WORST during the first time around.
Also, my boyfriend did the same drug and had horrible comedown as well. His lasted a while and he just started feeling better a few hours ago. He has a LOT more amphetamine experience than I do and even said it was pretty fuckin' hellacious.

 

all comedowns suck. you just have to weight out the good and the bad of the drug. but maybe if you live past the first comedown and take a tylenol pm or 5 htp, it would be less bothersome.

 

I have never once crashed from e, and I have rolled over 200 times. Come downs are always nice and relaxing. Sounds like shitty chemical, from what you say, its definetly not worth it. But oh yeah, I love being the guinea pig too!

 

80 mg is a "low" dose?

 

amphetamines are...possibly the worst drugs out there.

 

exactly. Of all the drugs I've tried this is the worst comedown.
That's all I'm saying.

 

moderately low, yes

 

uppers.

that is all.

 

I'm feeling mostly recovered this morning despite some anxiety 10 hours of sleep definitely helped. Appetite is still fucked from what I can tell so far.

 

Do you have a tolerance or is f-amphetamine weak? 80 mg of dextro would have me tweaking nuts.

 

I have basically no tolerance. I had never done amphetamines before except for adderall twice. The bf did 150mg since he has some tolerance.
It was pretty strong for me which is perhaps why the comedown was so bad. I talked to my bf more about it and he says he didn't start getting the really awful comedown until after his second dose. So I guess if you want to fuck with 4-fmp you should just do one dose.

 

Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't most amphetamines work on the dopamine receptors more so (save mdma)? If so, how would 5-htp help? I know that all drugs that work on dopamine are not entirely selective to it, but I don't think that it works to well on 5-ht receptors. At least not enough to make the precursor do a whole lot.

 

Methamphetamine works on dopamine, norepinephrine and serotonin. I don't know about any of the others:

usf: How did fluoro compare to adderall, and how much of the latter did you take? Adderal is dextro-amphetamine and levo-amphetamine, I've done generic dextro-amphetamine and 70 mg of that stuff is definitely a strong buzz for someone with no tolerance.

 

Yeah, I know its works on all of them. It has some selectivity though on dopamine, making that the main neurotransmitter of interest. Any drug that works on one of these chemicals usually effects the others to some degree, but how much is the question. I guess taking a 5-htp supplement would not hurt, huh?

Personally, just to make sure its all good. I would take 1000mg of vit c for free radicals, and L-Tyrosine and 5-HTP for the comedown to restore neurotransmitters. I think we could all agree that this might help the comedown, yeah?

Obviously time is the most important factor though. Making sure you eat too, even if you don't want to.

 

According to wikipedia, the pharmacology of meth is as follows: releasing monoamines in rats with ratios of about NE:DA = 1:2, NE:5HT= 1:60

I'm not sure how to interpret that though.

 

well this is different than meth
And to answer your question when I did Adderall i did just 10mg. I liked the effects. Less of a comedown but I still get some jaw-clenching while high

I'm still anxious. I have to be at work in 30 minutes and every day that I go in I think it's the day I'm getting fired/laid off. This anxiety has been immense the past couple days which sucks since I'm trying to get OFF the benzos. I just took a small amount of Xanax. I wish I could quit that shitty ass job or they would just get it over with and can me already. I can't take this pressure. My boss is a douche and he hates me.

 

when you take an upper that work on your serotonin, the comedown will make you feel bad because it is using up all your serotonin so by taking 5 htp before and after, it will help restore some that was takin up during the "trip." so that would make for a less sad, depressed feeling

 

Dopamine depletion alone is enough to bum you out.