Arrest ordered for mom of boy, 13, resisting chemo

Again, it has nothing to do with religion. The chemo made him sick. READ!!!!!

 

Bullshit!Read post #2 or the article about them.You read.

 

You don't even do any research. They tried using a religous exemption as a loophole around being forced to have something injected into his body that he didn't want injected into his body, which made him very ill.

If this was about religion, then why was the child put through chemo in the first place? He did in fact reveive chemo, but it made him ill. He is now seeking alternative treatments, which is their right.

 

i've known many people who gave up their chemo. bit of a cancer cluster in the four corners. i think the gov't should stay out of their decision.

i also think that all the people who are the first to disrespect another's religion are the first to replace it with nanny gov't and shouldn't be taken seriously at all. so i mock them with their own beliefs.

 

If you read one fucking article from the media and then form your opinion based on that alone, it shows what an ignorant fool you are.

 

Yes I may be an ignorant fool,but you're still a fuck-head.All I did in post # 40 was post a question.You,of course are a fuckin' genius as usual.

 

You know,I've been coming to HF since the late 90's.I've always read your posts with interest and respect and have enjoyed the zeal of your research.In a few instances I HAVE TOLD YOU AS MUCH.But frankly, I'm damned tired of the hubris and disrespect with which you address me and others who may disagree with you or not know as much as you on a given subject.Did it make you feel good to call me an ignorant fool?Can I(we)be wrong once in a while without incurring your wrath?Maybe you think the way to convince people that your positions are always correct is to belittle and berate.Just maybe you are the fool if you think you have gotten much respect by your attitude.I don't know what your life is like away from the computer world,but if your conduct is anything like it is in here,you must get commuppences quite regularly.,I'm a gentle,loving person ,however I will say you would not be allowed to address me in person as you have in here without consequences.I have spoken.

 

Sorry dude, this is America, "The Land of the FREE?"
Why do you care what choices someone else makes?

I think that you would loose you mind if someone told you how to live, and you should. Turn your argument and see if you like the "love feeling" of living your own way and having someone tell you NO.

Sorry again, not very hippie like thinking.

Peace
Dan

 

3 years ago memorial day weekend in fact i got diagnosed with non hodgkins lymphoma.i don't know the differance really with hodgkins lymphoma but i got rid of it with chemo.it did pretty well wipe me out.after my 10 days in the hospital i went to chemo one day every three weeks.for 2-2 1/2 weeks i had no energy,no sex drive.i'd see a beautiful woman and i'd tell my dick"what? you don't think she's beautiful?"i lost my hair.{free haircut}anyway i fully recovered.there were young people there too.i'm not against their religious freedom or freedom to choose alternate remidies but i worry if he doesn't get treatment the tumor might grow.there's differant kinds of cancer though and they probably need differant treatments.i never researched the subject too much.but i know we should all be good and kind to each other.

 

If you consider that we are ALL going to die, one way or another,

does it really make a big difference if you have a long life,
or a short one?

For someone who IS deeply religious, the answer is no.

It's sad and horrible, granted. But think of the depth of peace the person must feel to be completely trusting in God, knowing that everything isn't going to be roses and sunshine.


Hey, and i'm sorry about this ~ i seem to have veered this thread off topic, but what i posted WERE things i've wEndered about.

And, Rat?

i "Get It" ~

it's not about religion,

it's about a patient's right to refuse treatment.

If the parents feel that the son is competent to make the decision,

and choose to stand behind him, as his legal guardians,

i don't see how the gov would have any grounds for stepping in.

But then i'm laboring under the mispresumption that our Constitution is still legal...

 

I think I am right in saying the boy can not read or write.
Can't comprehend what is happening to him, either.

"In Minnesota, District Judge John Rodenberg ruled last week that the Hausers were neglecting their son, and ordered them to consult doctors. He cited a state law requiring parents to provide necessary medical care for a child."


(page 5)
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...a=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8#PPP1,M1

It looks like it was "In the best interests of the child"

 

Yes it is, in this case. A minor under the law is suffering, and his parents make the decisions for him. The govt needs to ensure there is no case of neglect on the parents' part.

 

A parent shouldn't have the right to decide on a death sentence for their child no matter what their beliefs in medicine are.

A child isn't an adult and can't be expected to make their own life or death decisions unless they're emancipated. The state should intervene.

 

I know that if it was my child with Hodgkin's, I'd do whatever it took to make sure that a simple, curable form of lymphoma was cured. And any shitty, mentally ill parent who witholds treatment of the child under the guise of "God's will" should be allowed to let his or her child die.

Afterward, all the other children should be removed from the home and the parent should be charged with negligent homicide and child neglect.

The kid is 13. It's not his decision. It's his parents' decision and they are acting like total assholes.

Praise Jesus.

 

Before Pressed Rat bites your head off: It wasn't about Jesus or God.

 

No, apparently they are just using the religious exemption thing as an excuse to stop treatment.

Which I assume is some sort of fraud is it not?

 

it's all well and good until you're the one faced with your child undergoing chemo and the risks involved. all the people around here who are all about holistic healing, eastern medicine, natural remedies, prescriptions are bad bad bad, etc., but gung ho for chemo. listen, my stepson did well, but many kids lose their lives even sooner than they would have BECAUSE of the chemo.

 

Oh? Isn't it? Every article I've ever read states without fail that these people are Roman Catholic (which I don't understand at all) and that his parents have refused treatment for reasons of religious preference.

So if its not about God, what is it about?

Also, Minnesota law requires parents to provide their children with medically necessary care. Don't fuckin' like it? Move.

 

If it was him making the descision not to do chemo than fine... but thats not the case. The kid is VERY uneducated, and his parents are in some sort of a cult. They probably had no problem convincing him that chemo is just some conspiracy that will get you sicker and make the government money.

 

I would hesitate to call Nemenhah Band a "cult". They are a naturalist Native American healing group. Which makes me wonder which "cult" is the sham in this case, Nemenhah or The Roman Catholic Church...