Whether they can be treated or not is totally besides the point. The point is would you trust any person who had molested a child in the past to be around your child. For me, the answer is no way in hell, and as I would never wish on another child what I wouldn't want for mine, that applies to all kids. Why should they be given the chance to do it again? No matter how sure their doctors, counselors or lawyers think we should. If a person demonstrates the ability to harm children in such a fashion, they should either be permanently locked away from any chance of being around a child again, or killed... I prefer shooting, and before anyone thinks to ask, Yes, I would gladly be the one to pull the trigger, even though in general I think killing is wrong.
i'm neutral. i have a very close friend who was a rapist, and has changed his life now. and i don't think he should linger in what he did. i know he constantly thinks about it because he had raped his wife before they were married. (long story) but, he shouldn't have to think about it so much.
Lots of knee-jerk reactions here and a lot of hate. We're all capable of the worst crimes. You could be the pedophile or the victim. Anyone with a conscience who nevertheless was a pedophile and felt guilty for it could suffer just as much as the victim. Those without consciences, needless to say, need to be cured of that as well. So we should make our best effort to heal and cure both the pedophiles and the victims. Castration is not a cure, nor is execution or imprisonment. All those things are revenge which never leads to a positive outcome. If a pedophile is incurable, he should be permanently kept out of contact with children, but why exact revenge by putting him through the horrible prison system where pedophiles are the most hated inmates, forcing him to suffer needlessly and become an even worse person by being abused by others. This attitude of revenge, this is why we don't have world peace. We should not exact revenge, but do our best as a society to cure them. Those who cannot be cured should be kept separate from the rest of society, but in conditions designed to allow them a happy life rather than to make their life a living hell.
and just who's children are you going to risk to find out if your 'cure' works?? Won't be mine, that I promise you over your (or anyone elses) dead body... People like you seem to get all caught up in this idea that maybe they can be cured... maybe they can, maybe they can't... the point is, who gives a fuck if they can or not... why would you ever give a child molester the opportunity to prove he isn't cured??? If you are capable of such actions, then you should be locked away 24/7 til you die, so there is zero chance of you harming another child, or you should be shot.
I think that in this day and age it'd be possible using technology to find out whether someone is attracted to children still without exposing them to children? Nobody in their right mind would risk putting known pedophiles in contact with children just to find out if they were still pedophiles. You assume that pedophiles are monsters and not people. In fact, they could be a person just like you, except with a strong attraction to children. I agree that they need to be separated from the rest of society forever if they can't be cured, but this doesn't mean they should be held in dehumanizing conditions. Nor should any criminal. We think its an acceptable form of revenge to put criminals in hellish prisons but no revenge is acceptable or productive for anyone and any wrong is still a wrong, even if it is committed in revenge.
And are you offering up your children to be the test cases once the pedophile is 'cured'? And yet, that is exactly what you are proposing. What piece of technological wonder is it that is so foolproof and perfect, that you feel confident in being able to label one of them 'cured'? No they are NOT. They are pieces of shit that don't deserve a second's consideration. If you wish to feel sorry for someone, feel sorry for the kids that they have forever fucked up. As for hellish conditions and such.... yes, that is exactly what they deserve. They deserve to be kept alive and locked away from society, and their 'sufffering' will still never come close to what they did to a child. Seems this is the real world though, and that would cost money.... put a bullet between their eyes.
I really don't care how strong their attraction or impulses are, what separates us from animals is our ability to reason, and self-control. I can buy the argument that there is some kind of chemical make-up in them that makes them naturally more prone to be attracted to a child (in RARE cases), but there is NO excuse for acting on it. I am no expert though....
first I must admit, that yes, I am a survivor of molestation, so I am biased on the topic. But my bias comes from the experience of the pain that never ends and not theoretical guessing. That said, I have no sympathy for molesters-male or female. It greatly ticks me off that people act like if a cute female teacher does it it really isn't as bad! How would they feel if it was a male teacher? grrrrrr The punishment SHOULD fit the crime. If I hear of a molester dying, I figure well, they won't hurt another child again. Now the weird bit is I wish my dad COULD be healed. But I don't really believe that it is curable. Especially, when they don't feel any friggin' remorse. peace, Delfynasa
No fucking way. It's disgusting. I honestly almost get sick to my stomach when I hear stories of child molestations on the news. It's a shame how I hear it on the local news at least twice a week, not to mention the ones that make primetime national news. It's deserved that they have to have their names on that molestation website where their adress and name is posted online for anyone who wishes to see. Fucking sick dueshbags
I haven't read the whole thread, but had anyone mentioned the insane bias in the poll options? Really. 'I justify what they've done,' is the only option for anyone who wants to go that route? No one justifies what they've done, but some people are willing to give people a second chance. I'm one of those people. I wouldn't necessarily say they should stop feeling guilty as in thinking what they did was okay, but I think that in some cases they should forgive themselves for it and try to move on. This may as well not even be a poll. It's just 'either agree with me or you're an asshole.'
So, you are offering up your children (or your future children) as test subjects to see if they can handle that second chance?
No I noticed that too I just kinda put it in the back of my mind since I was voting no. I kinda forgot to say something about it to tell the truth. I see what your saying. There shoulda been something like "not forget but move on and learn from their mistakes".
I did not vote in the poll because I could not relate to the choices given. Being that I think it is really almost impossible to control someones feelings. I think that some offenders really do feel remorse and others feel none what so ever. It is a sickness ya know. I think a child sex offender ought to have a visible tattoo on their foreheads or right hand so that everyone even children could recognize it. I also think we ought to learn what is causing this sickness and learn how to prevent someone from becoming this type of offender. Another thing I think is that someone who gets caught peeing outside should not be labeled a sex offender.
All anxiety is caused by the misapprehension of reality. We "fear" the unknown. The Op of this thread presents itself as an appeal for justice, "what should happen" This is a false representation. The real appeal is how best do I mitigate my fear. You want the behavior to stop because you fear it will happen to you, or continue to happen to someone else that you may have sympathy with. An interesting aspect of this attitude is that there is no sympathy for innocence in regards to those we have no sympathy for, the perp can rot in hell. Fear is a liar. Consider what it says, it sits on your shoulder and whispers, follow me and I will keep you safe. But fears real intent is to keep you from going where you will and to separate you from community. I would say from the evidence that neither fortress nor prison has ever kept us safe from any eventuality.
Perhaps you should re-read it yourself. What part of giving a second chance don't you understand? To give a molester a second chance, (your words), you would have to let them run around free with the opportunity to do it again. If they didn't repeat it, then that chance has paid off. Unfortunately, if they do choose to repeat it, you have just allowed them to destroy another child's life. If you lock them up, or shoot them, or keep them separated from all children, you are not giving them a second chance. Which, to be clear, is perfectly fine with me, I made my preference clear. A bullet to the head for them, and there are no more worries about them repeating it again. So, I repeat, are you offering up your kids to be the test subjects to see if that second chance was a good choice or not?