The school system...

Discussion in 'Protest' started by ClassicRockGirl, Apr 18, 2009.

  1. ClassicRockGirl

    ClassicRockGirl Member

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    needs change RIGHT this second. I, am personally tired of being treated the same as everyone else, when I am a young person who needs to expand and discover myself. I am an individual and learn different than others do. School is a bunch of white rooms molded together, that we have to stay in eight hours a day, five days a week, nine months out of the year, for twelve years. Should we have no say in twelve years of which we have no other choice?! Would it be a bad idea to give children an actual say in their lives or is too much to ask? Children grow up, they have to make decisions, but the school system tells you, you have no say? Oh yeah, there is online school...that lacks relationships and communication, which is just as vital as reading and math. Sure, homeschooling, but there lies the same problem. School needs to be an open-enviroment in which children learn REAL facts not modified facts in text books. School needs to have creative, open, doors that doesn't deny them fact, that doesn't deny them freedom of speech. School needs to teach self-defense, hiking, needs to teach you how to defend yourself in real life situations. School needs to be shorter, maybe four hours a day, maybe three days a week, maybe five months out of the year. Give kids the most precious times of their lives to play, live innocent, instead of taking their innocence away as soon as possible. School needs to help out the community and show the kids what REAL sharing is. School needs to take the stress off, we aren't adults, and you tell us to enjoy our lives but be stress us with eight hours a week for five days (plus homework)? Yeah, the school system needs to change RIGHT NOW.
     
  2. crankyelbow

    crankyelbow Makes Music

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    It needs a change.

    And it certainly needs a change in regard to WHAT is the base of its education.

    Its absurd to teach more about european kings than local geography.

    Its absurd to consider egypt part of the middle east"... and its absurd to consider europe a continent of its own...

    What is taught is taught for a reason - the knowledge presented in schools today is only to prepare kids for the feast of propoganda and oppresion they will dine on for the rest of their lives... prepare them in such a way that they believe it is the ONLY way... spread not fact but foolishness - so that the mind is forced to believe illogical things... teach memorization of process rather than formation of process... think for yourself? fail, gotta do it my way

    Brainwash...

    But places like here allow for knowledge to spread, not ignorance to prosper... for here, nobody is testing you... you learn what you want and apply it how you see fit. Your not gonna fail because you say of course christopher columbus didn't discover america!

    You are correct.

    Make up a model of your optimal educational system and deliver it to your deans/principal/teachers/students. If they tell you to sit down and shut up, perhaps you should remind them that you have had enough years of "sit down and shutup", its time for a new class....
     
  3. ClassicRockGirl

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    Thank you!!! I will have to organize some specific ideas...
     
  4. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Lolz to shortening school, Americans are already fail the most at most subjects.

    I hate to say it, but if you think you're stressed now, wait till the real world, high school is by far the easiest years of your life. Combined with the fact even by geneartional standards it's easy. You get to go to school instead of waking up at dawn and going into the fields or having to go to work. Even compared to 10 years ago, anything you need to know you can find on the internet, and anything on the internet is on wikipedia.

    As for what's being taught, while things do need to be changed, what you said, 1. European kings is more important then local geography, anyone who would think otherwise seriously needs to go back to school. Egypt is part of the middle east and Egyptians would agree with that. And Europe is a continent of it's own, geographers will point that out that historically as continents have been concerned Europe and Asia are both their own separate continents, both being part of the larger Eurasia landmass
     
  5. ClassicRockGirl

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    Americans fail because they aren't interested or don't understand, long school hours doesn't help anyone in the school system.
     
  6. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    These people wouldn't want to learn to begin with, forcing someone to learn isn't the ideal process but at least we don't wind up with a country of complete retards
     
  7. ClassicRockGirl

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    I just want a say in my school. I don't want abscense of school- I want a say in it. And student government is pure bullshit. I just want a say in where I have to stay for twelve years.
     
  8. StayuYona

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    Well in all fairness if the student government is bullshit it's only because they government it mimics is also comprised mostly of bullshit.
     
  9. StayuYona

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    and in reality it really is your own business to become an educated human being. Do you trust the government to decide what you do with your own body? Then why trust a mere government lackey with the wellbeing of your mind? I agree that feeling loved and accepted is an important thing to learn but it pales in comparison to the importance of developing an adequate understanding of logical thought. If you really want to make a change in the world it is imperative that you not only believe but understand your own argument.
     
  10. blackcat666

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    drop out. that is what i did. i went through 3 years of high school. the school principle, offer me this deal, at the end of my third year there: "don't come back to school for your forth year, and at the end of year 4 we will just give you a diploma."

    i was a drop out all the way back to fourth grade. i was so shitfaced drunk all the time starting in fourth grade. it was so easy too, since my mother was already drunk, they never knew i was boozing up too from her stash.
    being a drunk was a way to psychologically drop out.

    there are schools that are democratic. they are few though.
    public schools are totalitarian police states unto themselves.
    they are just trainning grounds for the work world.
    cheer up, once you get out of high school, you got another 30 or more years of your life being shitted and walk upon, the same way in the work world too. (oh, joy, joy, joy!)
    LAND OF THE FREE MY GOD DAMN MOTHERFUCKING ASS!

    listen, you need to start learning a productive way to drop out. here are two books that will get you started on that.

    1. what color is your parachute? by richard bolles.

    2. the joy of not working. by, ernie zelinski.

    both of those books are published by ten speed press.
    ten speed press was started by a hippie back in the late 1960's, and it has stayed true the "hippie philosophy" all these years since.
    i most strongly suggest you visit their website, and just browse it over, and learn about all the great stuff our school system deprives us of. in other words, a life of your own.
    also, visit the 'living on earth' section here at hip forums; the people there, can help you learn how to go about dropping out too. the ten speed press web address is:

    www.tenspeed.com
     
  11. ClassicRockGirl

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  12. blackcat666

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    i'm glad i could be of help to you.
     
  13. crankyelbow

    crankyelbow Makes Music

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    So you are aware the current system is failing.

    All of the world is the real world.

    Why you consider it otherwise I don't understand. School is as much real world as huddling around a campfire. School right now is failing, as you understand. Its failing for a reason, why do you think that is?

    Work? School? Whats really the difference? If I want to leave work - for any reason at any time - I am in my rights to do so. If I wanted to leave school, I would have been detained in some way... and for my miseducation I was not at all compensated. In school I was obligated to basically devote my childhood to learning things I had no interest in... many things I knew to be false! If school were a "job", I would have quit and found another... but given the school system as it is, I didn't have that option. In fact, I paid THEM to redundantly teach me structural nonsense such as (refer below)

    Point being, school is not at all "easy". In fact for those who seek TRUTH it is a nightmarish experience - the earliest years of life wasted on ventures that have no bearing to what life is really about. All that makes the school life "easy" is if the parents are taking care of the pupil.... imagine now if that same situation applied for the whole of your life - if all your needs were taken care of... that would mean work gives money to do whatever you want. School gives no money and demands more time...

    It need not be this way.

    European kings ARE more important to learn in school than local geography? I can only assume that a typo - the notion is absolutely absurd.

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080518044628AAAGBOc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WOZ0C4gPAI

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    I hope this clarifies things.

    Egypt is *definitely* part of Africa. If you wish to know why this school system teaches otherwise - please use this wonderful tool we call the internet :)

    There is absolutely no reason to draw seperation here. Canada may as well be considered a seperate continent, as well as USA...

    Maybe egypt is also its own continent?

    http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=107611

    A quote from the above link:
    "Europe is not a continent if we go by the traditional defination or even the newer ones. It is barelly a subcontinent (it shares the same tectonic as most of Asia, where as Arabia and India have a different one!)."

    Hopefully this post prompts you to seek the truth of many of the misnomers you currently stand behind.
     
  14. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    I'm aware the current system fails miserablly, telling kids not to go to school and go learn by themselves are is not going to work though

    To compare going to high school to having a real job in the real world is asinine

    Most local geography is unimportant while the history of Europe has had an enourmous impact on both North and South america and the world as a whole for the past 600 years

    I'm sorry but Egypt is technically part of the African continent but is also historically been part of the middle east
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    In fact all the Northern african countries even aside from Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria and Morocco are all Arab in people and culture and Berber to a smaller extent and really have little in common with sub-sharan Africa
     
  15. I_Human

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    It is important to learn about European kings, and by that I mean it's important to learn history. Very important. Very, VERY important.
    But schools need to be teaching things like gardening, sewing/knitting, free thought, and need to stop teaching blind obedience towards authority figures.
     
  16. Kathryn O

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    Dropping out is okay. Booze is overrated. wayway overrated.
     
  17. Mixed-Peppers

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    true i agree, school does need to change...it shuld become more friendly and less stressful...the same for the world of work to...everyone should be given time to be free (in a tolerant way)...happiness shuld be more important thn stress and work work work...or exams exams exams

    Ril lyk ur topic..
     

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