Why Don't You Believe?

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by BraveSirRubin, Apr 15, 2009.

  1. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    You blew it big time with your answer.

    You should have widened your eyes and with a loud RUMPBLING Bible thumping voice you should have said; THE QUESTION IS DO YOU BELIEVE? Then mumbled something about the end of the world and eternal burning and then started to argue with your self in three or four different voices about when the end will be and as they backed away, you just get on your bike and ride away. ;)

    PS Also works well on muggers.
     
  2. zilla939

    zilla939 Thought Police Lifetime Supporter

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    i don't feel like going through this whole thread right now. but the long and short of my answer is that i'm fucking educated, therefore i know there isn't some giant eye in the sky imposing its mighty will upon the lost sinners. i say that it's human to think that there has to be a creator. we can't accept the fact that everything that Is always HAS been, in one form or another. in that sense, the universe is god, if you define god as what is eternal.

    maybe i would have bought into christianity in its purest form. read a bible and realized what they were really getting at. but i think christianity is pretty fucking cheap now. the bible basically contains exactly what christians want it to.
     
  3. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

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    You really should go through the whole thread. It is a compelling account of all that is wrong with religion.
     
  4. IamnotaMan

    IamnotaMan I am Thor. On sabba-tickle. Still available via us

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    I'm not a fan of organised religions really.

    But I was thinking.Sometimes u just accept things that are patently true , even iof hard to understand eg that an aeroplane can fly.
    Sometimes u try and disect all aspects of something so that it makes sense.
    Other times, you realise /decide something is just bullshit.

    But the universe is pretty complex.I like to try and understand things.Other people just accept things, rightly or wrongly
    Whats pathetic is this zealousness that some religions can "spawn"..
     
  5. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Because there are sunspots there must invariably be earth-spots, or regions on earth of high electromagnetic energy. the pagans somehow knew and built permanent stone structures for future generations to harness that power; leaving the people on earth with an inexhaustible supply of energy :rolleyes:


    Hotwater
     
  6. daisymae

    daisymae Senior Member

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    I have a Q...

    How do Christians stop you on a bike? Do they throw themselves in front of you or just use the bible launcher?
     
  7. Jaitaiyai

    Jaitaiyai Cianpo di tutti capi

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  8. zilla939

    zilla939 Thought Police Lifetime Supporter

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    please refer to the "right now" portion of my post.
     
  9. farmout

    farmout All who wander arent lost Lifetime Supporter

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    I gotta take a crap, be right back after I finish with the paper work....:)
     
  10. rambleON

    rambleON Coup

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    farm out, rolling on twenties, farm out.

    what did you wipe with...bible pages. just curious. serious.
     
  11. littlehippieee420

    littlehippieee420 Member

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    becasue any lunatic could have written every word in the "holy bible" for all we know- without any actual proof, i have trouble believing anything. skepticccc.
     
  12. Kinky Ramona

    Kinky Ramona Back by popular demand!

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    *high five* I always told people until I see a copy handwritten by God Himself (capitals as He prefers ;)), I'm not taking it seriously.
     
  13. weaselpop

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    I would have answered: "Why don't you believe in unicorns or five-testicled-rodents-of-unusual-size (they glow in the dark, you know)?"
     
  14. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    What exactly are you interested in? A snappy comeback for rude Christians confronting you on the street when you're trying to get somewhere else, an actual answer to why you don't or somebody else doesn't believe in God, or good reasons for not believing in God? I guess I can't really contribute, since I'm a Christian and you've shut me out of the discussion because I'm "going to hell" (does that make sense to you?) But it seems to me you're getting mostly answers to the former two questions and none to the last.
     
  15. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    I'd say God can only be one of two things.
    Either God is a selfish ego-maniacal imaginary representation of mans self conscious OR God IS the Devil himself.

    Following God will lead to death and destruction just like it did for the republican Bush Administration, just like it did for Nazis, just like it's doing for millions of people in all the holly wars of Africa and the middle east right now.

    [​IMG]

    Get your bibles, gets your guns,
    keep telling yourself you're not the bloodthirsty ones.
     
  16. Martin_59

    Martin_59 Member

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    Cause I got no proof
    I would even say that evidences are against :
    - Jesus would have been white having been born in Palestine????
    - I think Darwin's work is more interesting than a book written by people on dope ;)
     
  17. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Certainly more interesting than forum posts written by people on dope.
     
  18. seizedbyanger

    seizedbyanger Banned

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    i would have said anyone could have written it, and that the story and adam and eve doesn't make sense because there is proof of evolution, not creationism. then explain to them that we are just a chemical reaction. that really pisses them off every time.
     
  19. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Thinking in dichotomies (either-or, black-white) is so rigid. There are lots of things God can be without being either egomaniac or devil. To a lot of my friends, God is just a Good Ol' Boy (never meanin' no harm) who plays poker with them Wednesday evenings and goes fish'n & hunt'n most weekends. Other concepts include: the Ground of Being, the Ultimate, the Absolute, the All, The One, the Omega point resulting from human/AI evolution, the Essence of Life (Michel Henry), Something Big Out There, a Benevolent Force, a Process of Becoming that co-creates the universe with us, etc. In the spirit of negative theology, we can say that God is not non-existent and not non-intelligent. To me, (S)he's all of the above and/or none of the above. Whether or not (S)he is egomanaical is debatable, but many believers think not. Following false gods leads to death and destruction. Following the true One(s) leads to eternal life.
     
  20. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    I don't think I'm being intellectually rigid. I'm simply pointing out the two most likely possibilities with any other possibility being so minute they fall far beyond reason and worthiness to speak of. Thinking God is everything is pretty rigid, what's the point if God is shit and gold, heaven and hell, misery and happiness. If God is everything then he balances out to nothing and then why fucking bother mention him at all?
     

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