Children and nudism

I'd go nude if I could. I wear very little cloths when I'm in the house. It feels so free.

 

Well, I remember back in yr 5 (10 yrs old) getting sent to the principals office, cos I wouldnt take my shirt off for shirts vs skins game of touch footy for sport. Something that wouldnt happen nowadays. Am gay, was back then, well whatever that is for a 10 yr old anyway.

My point is, I clearly remember being very self conscious, not so much for me, but didnt want the male teacher or classmates for that matter looking.

Maybe different in a naturist setting where everybody is, or for kids that have grown up with it since little - I mean thats the way humans were 10,000 years ago. But still, find it very hard to beleive 10,12 year old girl wouldnt be very self conscious about some older adults looking, or not self conscious that she hadnt developed as much as some girls her age

 

Tis Truly Hard To Believe .. That The "Big Bad Gorilla" Could Ever

Have Been So Modest.....:Angel_anim:.



Cheers Glen.

 

I would've had a cow if anyone had ever made me expose myself as a child. I still would.

Vanilla Gorilla, how could they punish you for not wanting to show your body? Jesus Christ.

 

^^^^

Well, as I said, wouldnt happen nowadays. Educators have a bit more of a clue about that stuff.

The setting was big tough acting male teacher that and the guys in class all getting prepared for a macho game of footy, what was I crapping on about, I wouldnt take my shirt off. Wasnt going to say to my teacher, Well cos I dont want you looking at me like that you dirty perv - but at the same time he wasnt bad looking, it was also a bit about me worrying about the blood rushing around rather fast and thinking some moght notice. Forget the teachers name Mr H, forget what the H stood for. Lucky it was him though, there was another male teacher at that time I thought was super hot. If it had been him in that situation, and took my shirt off, and detected any kind of "that" look from him, probably would have gotten a boner and thus been publically embarrased.

Anyway, my point is, 10/12 yr old kid is never going to tell a parent if they really are uncomfortable with nudity, they might just go along with it to get the parents validation, or validation from the rest of the group, do it anyway just to fit in.

It may be different if a kid grew up with that from birth, but I doubt it

Any parent on here that says there kids are comfortable with it is full of shit, they aint going to know, probably not till that kid is in their 30s when they find they've resented them in some way for it over the last couple of decades. Some kids might be fine with it, It may mean some kids grow up with more self confidence. But a parent saying they know their kid is fine with it, is bullshit, unless they have the ability to read minds

 

I can scarcely believe this thread, esp. the OP observing that naked children are "strangely erotic". There are many times when I, as a gay, am surrounded by naked children of either sex and I don't find them erotic. The proposition of other things going on in the presence of naked children is very disturbing and inconsistent with naturism principles i.e. leave eroticism — especially with children — well and truly out of any sexual titilation.

 

true. apparently the nudism,naturism forum isn't moderated.

 

If You Check At The Base Of The N.N.Page, You Will Find The Name

Of The Moderator Here..



Cheers Glen.

 

yeah, i know...but what's the point?

 

What good is a moderator if they don't moderate?

 

Maybe he/she is a moderate moderator (!)
...Anything goes. But I still disagree with some things that have been posted to this thread. Where are you, Mod?

 

New mod, eh?

Don't want this forum slipping, do we?

 

Let me put it more bluntly: creeps who find children erotic give the rest of us nudists a bad name.

 

Your better off not wasting your time posting this stuff here.
These people have open mind, but they insult you and care not to hear anything that you have to say. I would like to see what your reasons are based on. Clearly, their idea of open mind consists of some idealistic notions of what a person with an open mind behaves like, etc etc, instead of what the actual notion is, the capacity to hear reason beyond emotional outburts. I can understand them and am ready to see them change.

Though in some ways I feel skeptical in my heart due to my upbringing, I imagine that this may have some potential benefits. However, I find it hard to believe that the children will feel alright with themselves in this society, it seems like societal norms take precedence over peoples mind, regardless of upbringing and I can see them feeling like their parents are sick, perverted, etc etc, if they interact in this society with that upbringing.

 

OMG....Steve, would you be ok telling the police about how you feel about your kids....probably not, because it is sick to even think that, even if you never act on it. being a nudist or naturalist is about something else. Clearly you are doing it for the convenience of having your family naked. I have children whom I encourage to not be ashamed of themselves nude. Honestly it does nothing for me but save on laundry cost. SOMETHING'S WRONG WITH YOU

 

I agree 100%.

 

It's all about knowing the boundaries.As a barefoot,lesbian mum partial to baring it all I get enough shit as it is from the more conservative elements of my large Irish catholic family, like I really care.

That said, I draw the line at exposing my girls to nudity, for now anyway while they're at an impressionable age. When they reach adolescence and then adulthood and they want to follow the naturist path then I'll be elated but there'll be no pressure from me to go down this route. We're one happy girly household whatever happens

 

I denounce through all logic that anyone who insulted stever HAS absoltley any open mindedness. You, are all people who really have no coherent conception of the 'open mind' and poses a mentality that killed the hippy movement. "Some little inhibition is a good thing" WTF is that shit? ARE YOU CRAZY? I take that BACK it was an emotional outburst. My real problems with this can be found bellow.
Where to begin with this. Open mindedness, means exactly the opposite of inhibition. LOGIC, REASON know no inhibition, until all motions of the truth have been completely exhausted. They are the EPOC of having an open mind. If you do not care to hear REASON and argue with it, you do not belong in a place that argues with REASON. You belong in a religious institution, as soon as you inhibit reasoning on a subject, no exceptions, open to all exceptions. This is open mindedness.


Those who have chosen to insult STEVE acquaint yourself with the IDEA that your EMOTIONS are to be LEFT ASIDE in topics that push BACK against your cultural upbringing because you, like me are LIABLE to suffer a shortage of truth and light in our lives, once we allow emotion to guide US and our MIND. I feel the same as you, the only difference is that I will leave that for another topic and study the information, with reason and an OPEN MIND before I write something in return to a very brave individual who is attempting to offer his children only the best of his life, as he has communicated.

I DO NOT, wish to make you FEEL like I am condescending. PLEASE leave your feeling aside and listen to the reason behind touchy subjects, they are the EPOC of our MILLENNIUM. They have always been. When they told Einstein he was crazy, would he have given us such a remarkable way of understanding things, if he had listened with his heart? What of galileo and jesus?

This is no joke, we are changing our culture and it is a difficult process that is made easier by taking the eye of reason and setting our hearts aside for a moment, to reflect.

 

Changehappens, even if someone could come up with a thoroughly reasonable defense of child rape, it would still not excuse the crime. We have evolved an instinctual empathy and desire to protect children along with our capacity for reason. To turn reason against empathy and defense of the helpless is a maladaptive perversion of abilities and propensities crucial to our survival.

An open mind need not subject itself to scrutinizing every mindless piece of filth that it encounters. A certain economical limiting of scope will help us to make progress. Subjects that have been dealt with by our predecessors need not be revisited unless the solutions they found turned out to create new problems. The decision that child rape is wrong, and that children deserve protection from rapists seems to have had entirely positive results. So long as that proves true, an open mind is free to close this case and move on to something more pressing.

 

Only Steve knows what's really going on and what's going through his mind.

However, if you're still reading this thread Steve, as you've probably discovered by now even if you've done nothing untoward to your kids what you say can get so easily misinterpreted and once that happens with anything relating to children then mud sticks, so you haven't done yourself any favours with that comment you posted, it was very naive if nothing else. Perception matters, if it didn't then there would be no public relations industry.

In response to Change Happens' post, yes we should never discourage open-mindedness. However, as most contributors on this topic are presumably parents themselves,we know that there are certain things that are just beyond the pale,no matter how liberal our leanings,none more so than child abuse, something non-parents also fully understand.

Like all right-minded people I feel nothing but revulsion to those who harm children and want to see the most severe punishment meted out to perpetrators of such crimes. Unfortunately though, we have allowed hysteria to prevail, and this was well illustrated when the News of the World did their naming and shaming of paedophiles campaign a few years ago. This set the lynch mob loose, and had the unintended consequence of completely innocent people who's only crime was to share the name of the exposed peodophiles having to go into hiding. Such was the ignorance of the lynch mob that even a paediatrician was targeted, like you're really gonna display 'I'm a paedo' above your door! Another consequence of this campaign was that it became harder to get a guilty verdict for any of the accused if the case went to court as it prejudiced a fair trial, and if any of the named and shamed were actually guilty they'd still be roaming the streets instead of being locked up out of harms way. Good work Rupert Murdoch!!!

Change Happens you also said that emotions should be left aside and this applies when going through the legal process. My girlfriend's brother is a criminal defence lawyer and has defended people accused of the most heinous crimes. To do his job effectively he can't allow his own feelings to cloud his judgement or get emotionally involved. There is also one hell of a difference between knowledge and belief. Steve we don't know what you get up to with your kids but your comments have led many to believe that you have acted improperly.

That said I sure as hell plead guilty to having emotions about harming children. You wouldn't be human if you didn't.