Why all of this election fear mongering?

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by Greenhornet, Nov 1, 2004.

  1. Greenhornet

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    Bush & Cheney have been trying to scare Americans throughout this entire campagn by trying to convince us that our greatest danger is terrorism. Of course this isn't true, more people die of diseases caused by a lack of health insurance that ever die because of terrorism. Why doesn't Bush make all the deaths in auto accidents a campagn issue? Or the deaths due to poverty, or homelessness?

    This is why, because some psychologists have certainly informed Bush & co. that when people are afraid, it inhibits their rational judgement and they often go for whatever's familiar and seems safe. Bush & co. would rather us be scared into voting for another four years of really lousy government then think rationally.

    I have another question. If terrorism is such a threat to Americans, then why is the majority of people living is states such as California & New York supporting Kerry, and people living in states like South Dakota and Wyoming supporting Bush, when those living in the large coastal states are far more likely to be a victim of terrorism than those living in remote parts of the country? I don't have the answer, but it shows the stupidity of Bush's campaign and underlines why we have to get to the polls and vote for Kerry.
     
  2. Sera Michele

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    I know people get real tired of hearing comparisons of Bush/Hitler. And I myself know they were different (Hitler was much more charasmatic and a much better public speaker, among other things). The similarities come into play when you look at propaganda techniques, and how we were led into war.

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  3. Sera Michele

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  4. Pointbreak

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    Does saying that a Bush re-election is equivalent to a Nazi takeover of America count as fearmongering? Yes, it does.
     
  5. Sera Michele

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    I don't think I ever said that.

    This thread is about fear-mongering, and I think that Nazi Germany, and Hitler's rise to power are perfect examples of it.

    If you want to forget about history, rather than learn from it be my guest.

    Besides, Bush has this country too divided to be as successful as Hitler at an attempt at a takeover.
     
  6. Greenhornet

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    Bush isn't Hitler (thank God) but the stratagy of using terrorism to manipulate people is the same.
     
  7. Megara

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    There is nothing more disgusting or academically dishonest than this bush vs hitler comparison.


    Scaremongering new in american politics? No sorry. It happens all the time. Remember how demonized Goldwater was? LBJ: "Elect goldwater and there will be nuclear war!" Blah blah blah. Kerry: "elect bush, we're fucked!" Cheney: "elect kerry and we're getting nuked. Everyone is doing it.

    People bring up these comparisons when they suit em. The use of 'fear' has been used by both parties. It has been used throughout time.

    edit: its funny when people say lines like "bush and hitler the same? No, hitler could speak" Haha...so clever..so ignorant.
     
  8. T.S. Garp

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    The important point here is not there is an equivalence of Hitler and Bush (or Hitler and Saddam), but that the techniques used by this administration would make Josef Goebbels proud. Don't believe me? Check here and see what is believed by Americans after months of saying Osama bin Laden, 9/11, and Saddam Houssein in the same sentence.

    http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Pres_Election_04/html/new_10_21_04.html
     
  9. Megara

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    look through history(world or American)..do you not see scare tactics being used by everyone? This is NOTHING NEW!
     
  10. LickHERish

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    Everyone? Please substantiate this claim of "everyone". "Everyone" is not using their superior military might to perpetrate wars of aggression against other nations which neither could nor did threaten or attack them. Washington is, so your denials of transparently repeated history fall flat Megara.

    To point out the clear and documented lessons of history which Washington is indeed ignoring whilst dumbing down the nation to the point where it too fails to appreciate these obvious warning signs is quite legitimate and with more than sufficient academic weight to back it up.
     
  11. Megara

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    more pointless drivel.

    The point being, of course, is that you can make the hitler comparison to so many things when you use such vague comparisons as "he scared people."
     
  12. T.S. Garp

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    You will need to elaborate on this claim to have it carry any weight.
     
  13. Greenhornet

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    The testimony of Hermann Goering at the
    Nuremberg trials, not long before Hitler's vice-Fuhrer poisoned himself in his jail cell went like this: "It is always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country."


    Sound familiar? I think Cheney's been reading his Goering.
     
  14. Megara

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    easy. Japanese interment. McCarthyism. Scaring people isnt anything new. Its been done for a long time.
     
  15. brothersun

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    There is so much truth in that its scary.
     
  16. Pointbreak

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    For a conspiracy theorist who claims Bush is behind a CIA/Mossad conspiracy that piloted remote controlled missile firing aircraft into the World Trade Center to act shocked about scare tactics is beyond farce.
     
  17. Soulless||Chaos

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    So true...
     
  18. LickHERish

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    Significant difference in claiming "Bush" and claiming the "Bush Admin" PB. Unsurprising that you confuse the two. As for conspiracies, well son, if you knew as much about government policymaking as you often claim youd realise that conspiracies are the nature of the process itself.

    On the WoT, we'll see who is saying I told you so in decades to come when the subject finally receives the proper investigation it has long been denied by your unaccountable stonewalling neocon heros.

    Apologies for having to deal the resident gadfly. Now, back to the legitimate topic of the thread.
     
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