What IS this?

Discussion in 'Existentialism' started by gnomefootlocker, Nov 13, 2008.

  1. gnomefootlocker

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    i need help-
    is there a "term" for how i feel?-
    is it "existentialism"?

    how do we actually know anything? everything we know is created by us. We cannot actually prove anything because its all created through a "base" set of human ideas. we created the idea of being and conciousness. and what is creation? but how can we trust (prove,understand,etc) anything if we cannot even trust ourselves. How do i know that when im dreaming, im not entering another reality (dimension, world, etc) only able to be visited through the act of sleep. Why can't dreaming be an alternate reality. What is reality, a state of conciousness? Dreaming is! How do i know other people are expiriencing "my reality"?.

    A lot of stuff like this really. Sometime i break down because trying to comprehend these questions are too much. i need help. Thanks
     
  2. StonerBill

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    'existentialist angst'
     
  3. gnomefootlocker

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    i will research it more, thanks
     
  4. gnomefootlocker

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    but from what ive read this "angst" is feared or dreaded. i dont fear the though of freedom and possibility. and its not even quite that. its more that i cant really trust myself (myself sort of includes "myreality"" because i have no proof of its truth.
     
  5. StonerBill

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    sorry its just that you said you sometimes break down from asking those questions.

    At any rate, do you feel like a solipsist?
     
  6. gnomefootlocker

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    not really, because i feel like i shouldnt be able to even trust MY mind. i feel like you have to make a base assumption that you can trust what you observe. and either you accept that assumption and live accepting that, or you dont accept that (and then what? go crazy?) and i feel like there is just as much a probobility that i cannot trust what i observe than that i can trust my "observations" as a concious being. make any sense? (im not literally breaking down as much as just going crazy trying to compehend this stuff, which i know i can't.
     
  7. killuminati

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    trust me, a lot of us have been there.

    existentialism is just the ability to let go and let the chips fall as they must.

    at some point, you just need faith that it all happens in the vision of duality, nature, oneness, and love.

    this stuff is so hard to put in words, but I do know exactly what you're talking about. what you really need to do is start meditating, start feeling and stop thinking.
     
  8. gnomefootlocker

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    a few months ago i began meditating. and to my surprise it did put me much more at ease. thanks for the reply. at this point its more that i enjoy thinking about these kind of things, but realizing that if i spend my whole life thinking about, i will miss out on the great things in life.
     
  9. lessthanhuman

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    you've got your finger on it, gnomefootlocker. i'm right there with you.
     
  10. famewalk

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    But I've got my material being which changes all the time, with the unchangeable personality.

    One looks at the other in the fallen state without that crutch of feed and as the shameless wealthy use becomes... the changeable personality -- And they looked at Me -- the Self that I assert, can't help but asserting. What went around came around, goes around then proving itself into the Past.

    I won't be happy. I had no need to be happy.:toetap05:
     
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  12. Mr.Writer

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    !:cheers2:!
     
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    Hey, man. Don't mess with his mind.
     
  14. famewalk

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    Though the dharma is still to be awaited, that trust fights the materialist's humanity with the right to be happy but no one had the definition of happiness that way; and I now understand, the dharma comes strangely afflicted: the shear reflection is Trust .

    William Barret: I am not myself today. Now that's when I trust. I make myself. The One seeks compassion.

    Too good now.:)

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    What happened to biological substance? Nations like the U.S. are all political.
     
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    Unchangeable personality?
     
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    Witness the meaning of the term, the 'gold standard' in America over and agaisnt the gold standard in Eastern Europe. The values of living with ignorance of our neighbours is beyond contingency for the so-called happy community of fulfilling personal requests of the local difference on the topic of fitting out the very existence scarcified objects for the common party of unoriginal needs.

    That is called the gold standard which in terms of indifference is the golden rule applied to the trusted wealth: 'I owe you? instantly as a goods or service for the material fill of doubtful proof that I or whomever is the real member of monetary motives anyhow.' True loans, without suggestion of the potential class involved, to a friend are made at the bank.

    Then in time we travel as tourists or know of our family in eastern Europe, and realize that they are no longer interested in the values, better worded in their terms, principles, of how we manage the exchange rate, manage the profit without requirement of just being a tourist in transit. They manage much more of a gold staandard at this rate of considering principle, say we should call it considering usefulness of what else, when coming to anti-communist linguistics, neighbor. 'Love your neighbour as yourself' was the golden rule as much as 'do unto.. as he would do unto you'. In fact that second one fails the golden rule. Existentially the first one is loaded with the commonwealth issue which by now is not Hegel, but Hobbes.

    How's that? Is it more important to insult communism is it moer imporatant to unserstand the basis of trust. We almost forgot we were talking about that earlier.

    So we don't have a serious commodities' market in Russia. We can go on credit for the problematic investment that's been outstanding for the children from the west. It means the uncertainty is a direct trust of our family, friend, or business colleague. He won't fail us on the principle of the word. Will he? there are lawyers.

    Any lawayer's experineces in east friendship concerns. Live it up with a lawyer in the Ukraine.:cool:
     
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  19. Stabby

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    This is part of an idea called "The Other" and "The Look". It's basically the idea that if you gained "The Other's" (like another person) perspective and looked at yourself (from over where they are), you would experience yourself as seen in the Other's Look in the same way that you experience the Other as seen by you. Because we have no way to prove anything otherwise, we must view the world as objective and intersubjective (the same for everyone) and consider everyone else to be experiencing the same reality as we are.

    To answer your question, we can't know for sure, and so we believe that we are because it makes more sense to.
     
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    :cheers2:
     

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