the lost art of craft

Discussion in 'Art' started by yovo, Mar 27, 2009.

  1. yovo

    yovo Member

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    just thaught I'd share something my creative juices have cooked up over the past couple of months, it's a tudor arched door. My inspiration for this was the grand batten doors you see on old gothic churches, the design was also influenced by practial matters such as joinery and the type of hardware which will be used to hang and shut the door. The 3 rails (the horizontal parts) were porportioned and placed for cast-iron strap hinges.

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    Not to be offensive to the artsy types but sometimes I wish more people used thier creative impluses to create things of utilitarian beauty and not just self indulgent doodles. There was a time long long ago, nearly forgotten by history, when the shaman was synonomous with the blacksmith and artist. His works were inspired by his dreams, his skills flowed through intuition and the methodical rythems of craft. His creations were a practical journey of transcendance which gave him goods which both enhanced quality of life and strengthened the souls connection to the devine.

    it's crazy when you realise that embarking on such a practical journey may very well lead you down the road to self-sufficency as well as self fulfillment. Contrast that with what art has become, post-modernism anyone? I mean what the fuck happened to the creative spirit? it's been corrupted subverted and retarded into manifesting pent-up emotional garbage.

    You want a real trip? Check out Leonardo Devinci and his vitruvious man, in one image Divinci is able to use the language of geometry to express the classical unifying princicples of balance which governed music, architecture, our anatomy, and the fundemental laws of the natural world. He showed man, a devine creation, capable of creating the devine. They didn't call it the renaisence for nothing, infact he was just rehashing the wisdom of the ancients, Vitruvious was indeed a real man, an architect infact, check that shit out. Check out pythagoras, the fibinaci sequence. Fuck man, just wake up and realise we've been duped into believing we're light years ahead of our ancestors in terms of intelligence when really our industrialised/commodified shell has blinded us from the truths of natural beauty which is a force YEARNING to be harnessed and manifested BY OUR OWN DAMNED HANDS. We have been de-evolved and dumbed down by the machine which we have built to provide us with an artifical sustanance which we used to obtain from nature herself.

    ...tired & stoned...end rant

    but seriously, go create something, quit buying shit...fuck
     
  2. yovo

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    a bit more on the subject of Vitruvius I grabbed from wikki. thaught it summed up things better:

    Vitruvius is famous for asserting in his book De architectura that a structure must exhibit the three qualities of firmitas, utilitas, venustas — that is, it must be strong or durable, useful, and beautiful. According to Vitruvius, architecture is an imitation of nature. As birds and bees built their nests, so humans constructed housing from natural materials, that gave them shelter against the elements. When perfecting this art of building, the Ancient Greek invented the architectural orders: Doric, Ionic and Corinthian. It gave them a sense of proportion, culminating in understanding the proportions of the greatest work of art: the human body. This led Vitruvius in defining his Vitruvian Man, as drawn later by Leonardo da Vinci: the human body inscribed in the circle and the square (the fundamental geometric patterns of the cosmic order)...

    ... Roman architects practised a wide variety of disciplines; in modern terms, they could be described as being engineers, architects, landscape architects, artists, and craftsmen combined. Etymologically the word architect derives from Greek words meaning 'master' and 'builder'.
     
  3. Smelly D

    Smelly D The Dreaded Plumber

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    itd look nice with a dark stain and big wrought iron hinges.. i wish i could make a door. i was rubbish at woodwork =/
     
  4. Rigamarole

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    Man, I love carpentry. I took woodworking class all through school and loved it. But since I left high school I haven't had access to a shop so I haven't really done any carpentry. Oh how I miss it!
     
  5. yovo

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    you can do a lot with just a shaving horse and some handtools, but ya, real handy to have access to stuff like table saws, jointers, thickness planers and routers
     
  6. Smelly D

    Smelly D The Dreaded Plumber

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    i do miss it, but i wouldnt have said i was any good at it.. at college we had all the automated stuff.. cnc lathe etc, but i much preferrered to chisel my way through the course, but the tutors didnt agree =[
     
  7. Waking Rain

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    It's a nice door. But not everybody has this skill. You should be happy for the people who find an outlet with "doodling" because they are happy with that as you are with this.
     
  8. yovo

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    I'm not saying everyone should go and build doors I just wish there were more people in western society who knew how to craft usefull goods.
     
  9. RobynCB90

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    I agree, I would love to learn how to work with wood, but when I was in high school, I was also very interested in the sciences as well as the arts, and those courses had to come first.

    I may not be able to do what you do, but I admire it nonetheless, just as I'm sure you admire other people's works even if you can not create it yourself.
     
  10. crankyelbow

    crankyelbow Makes Music

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    We were not created to be.

    We are here to create.

    NEVER I can't... only I have yet to... such is the mentality of freedom...

    Limits, hah!

    I like reading things like the original post, its good to see words that promote the pursuit of knowledge.

    But we cannot forget that we are emotional creatures... utalitarianism has its place, and its next to a frustrated scribble of seemingly random lines. To openly combine all facets of our being is what directs us to further understanding why we should do anything at all :)

    Good stuff my friend, looks like a quality piece :)
     
  11. PurpByThePound

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    The same way you feel about crafts to art is how I feel about fine art to graphic art. It really seems like there is less of a "creative mind" needed for most graphic art that is seen as something so spectacular.
     
  12. talk2thetrees!

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    It seems that people have lost the ability or maybe its the want... to make their own things. I went to the hardware store and bought some wood and some sod, I just got a puppy and I don't want to take him down three flights of stairs at 3 am for him to use the patch of grass, so I came home and I made a small box to hold the sod. I put it on my balcony. It's nice to have a patch of lawn way up here... and it's nice to not have to take him down in my pajamas.... anyways, I fixed it up and all my roommates and my husband were all amazed that I could do something like that... it only involved like 10 screws. I'm just amazed that you can buy grass boxes for like 200 dollars, but mine took 1 hour and only 10 dollars. my husband spent over 200 on a coffee table when we could have had our own for under 30... I guess I have more training to do.. :)
     
  13. PurpByThePound

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    Coffee table? You mean cinder blocks and plywood, right?

    harr
     
  14. seraphina

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    i wholeheartedly agree :)
    i learned to weld as a child and will teach my children.. metal fabrication and carpentry is truly rewarding

    the door is gorgeous
     
  15. crankyelbow

    crankyelbow Makes Music

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    Because a computer can do in a moment what an artist must spend years to even gain the ability to accomplish does not make the art of the computer any less amazing :)

    Someone made that computer, someone made the program, someone pushed the button.

    The cooperative effort of the above is equal to the sole effort of Picasso :).

    The means is to the end, doesn't so much matter who is capable of doing what - its about why its done.
     
  16. Xora

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    That is a very fine peice of wood work.
    And programming is an art of its own spinning logic with abstracts to create nothing into something. Same should be said of graphic art.
     
  17. blisskiss

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    It's a beautiful door.

    I see you do stone work, that is most definitely art and hard work. Once I tried to build a stone wall around a flower garden - it was a disaster but my husband finished it and it's gorgeous. On the other hand, my husband couldn't crochet a scarf to save his life and I can (and do, every chance I get). I guess it depends on the artist.
     
  18. Pwn Biscut

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    I love it! Great job!
     
  19. wally m

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    some say that the modern power tools have taken all the craft out of wood working.
     
  20. Smelly D

    Smelly D The Dreaded Plumber

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    when i did woodwork at college, the staff tried to get us to use laser cutters and cnc machines, but i was far happier with a chisel and mallet..
     

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