Election determines fate of nation

thanks shaggie as always

 

I didnt take anything out! Full article at http://hnn.us/roundup/entries/5285.html Not adding the ENTIRE article does not change the outcome in the least.
But still to say he only acted on orders is still in means of my point.
HE STILL COMMITTED ATROCITIES! If I were told to kill someone or burn down their village knowing full well it was not right I WOULD NOT DO IT TO SAVE MYSELF. Does this not seem one bit wrong to you? He was only acting on orders so he is not to blame?

 

Let's just see about that. You said:

When Kerry actually said:

Not adding the entire quote is a bit differebt than not adding the eitire article.

But if you have such a problem with atricocities such as this, then why are you voting for Bush after Abu Garib and Guantanamo Bay? Oh wait, he is just the president of the US, and not responsible for that in any way...

 

In the army, it is your duty to follow commanders..You weren't there at that time, you don't know what it was like and he was honest, can you actually follow a president who took us into war pre-emptively and killed thousands of innocent people, all the time lying to us about why we were there? whats worse?!

 

lol that's what i was fixinta mention..

 

This is completly rediculous. You two are very spiteful people. I was trying to have a serious descussion and oppinions on this matter and all I get is sarcasm and bashing. You told me not to take out words and then you take out a small portion of what I said and quote.
It doesnt matter where I am at what time in what year....I would not do something to take an innocent life. Why you cant see that that is wrong is beyond me. It doesnt matter if your voting Kerry or not. Not addmitting that that is wrong sends me signals about the type of people you are and I care to stay away from. People are so caught up with who they are voting they dont look at their candadites wrong doings ALSO. I never claimed President Bush has not done wrong. And I never labled him. I simply stated facts that are important in calling him BRAVE. So I am on to someone who has a much mature intellect that can have a fair debate without bashing and sarcasm.

KERRY IS NOT PERFECT!!!!!

 

I'm sorry you see it that way..But, I do NOT agree with you and i wasnt being sarcastic and judgemental..you were taking out of context his words, you didn't use all of his words in that quote..another thing I'd like to point out is..Sera Michelle isn't for Kerry..but she is against Bush..when you start accusing one person of doing things you should accuse both not just ONE is what I'm getting out also, how do you know Bush wouldn't have done the same thing..He didn't get that chance, because he didn't serve..The thing I was also pointing out, is you were asking me how i could vote for him, and i just told you how..I trust John F. Kerry, and I like what he has to offer as OUR president..don't come on here and accuse me of bashing..because you obviously started the bashing
I never said Kerry was perfect

 

I never asked you once how you could vote for him. I simply asked how you thought he was so brave. It doesnt matter how much text I left out it didnt change the fact that he commited those crimes, under orders or not. They are not accusations they are facts. My intent was not to bash Sen. Kerry but curious why you thought he was brave. If you stand for Kerry well that is your right and your free will. There is no reason to get hostile over someone with other veiws asking questions.
As far as President Bush and Abu Garib and Guantunamo Bay. I was completely horrified! There is no reason that this should have happened. Where the orders for this type of action came from is still being figured out. I can assure you not from President Bush. And I say that, knowing full well that I will be attacked for that, because it is the truth. It came from a closer chain of command and should be dealt with.
Listen there are things I dont like about President Bush and I would give you my oppinion on the wrong doings he has done if asked. I simply asked a question about Sen. Kerry. Again my intent wasnt to bash but curiousity. I am a person that wants to talk seriously on the values and wrong doings of both. My main reason for voting for President Bush is his clearcut stands on issues like abortion, parent notification,tighter Immigration Controls,opposes Universal Government-Supervised Health Care, limit Malpractice Suits Against Doctors- Insurers,and a list of other things.

Well I am sorry if you thought I was bashing, its hard to read emotions on the computer.

 

this was your post to me..
ooo you must Know about Sen.John Kerry commiting war crimes along with everyone else correct?
And Bravery in your eyes is someone commiting atrocious war crimes and then coming home and trying to get everyone else in trouble except himself correct?
And Sen. Kerry has guts and passion for standing up at home but not when he was shooting inocent men and women in Vietnam correct?

Interesting.........
Reading that, seemed like you were attacking me..I said he was brave for fighting a war, then coming home to say it was wrong,..that's what I say is brave..He was brave to have the guts, to stand up, and say this war shouldn't have happened, and so many men died and lost many years of their lives to this war, I mean imagine what they all went through during this war..for your information, and a very good read..http://www.nationalreview.com/document/kerry200404231047.asp
that is his text on his anti-war pro-test..YES I still view him as brave..that is my right as an American to do so. How many people go to war, only to come back and speak out for a lot of people, that it was wrong..going to OUR government and saying, we fought in a war and it was WRONG?! That's were he is brave..I have family members who fought in Vietnam too, and they have bad memories of it..and you have no idea what this war did to them, or how it affected them..