Dangers of Frequently Tripping

I know that there isn't any proof (to the best of my knowledge) of LSD doing any sort of neurological damage to the brain, but I was wondering if in your experiences, if you ever tripped and then tripped again after say... a week's time... and then maybe again after a week...

If there were any noticeable effects that lasted after the last trip.

Do you think it might be dangerous to trip so soon after tripping before, and in a way maybe "frying" the receptors and such within your brain?

 

From what I know, no it will not damage receptors. But it will affect your tolerance.

 

nothing is "frying" ...that's just a figure of speech to describe the "undescribeable".

I think once every 2 weeks is better than every week noticable effects including, but not limited to, better insight and compassion, understanding of natural laws and how things work, and an infinite appreciation of life and natural beauty. There are no negative effects to your brain...

but for some, the above listed psychological effects can translate into negative feelings.

On a side note..tripping takes a good part of your day so it also becomes a time management issue when your responsibilities in life, work, family, etc.. become neglected from time spent tripping. I think that can be more detrimental in the long run. Anyone with OCD knows how that works.

 

Heh, I know the "frying" is a figure of speech and about the insight and all that. I was merely talking about physical and neurological effects.

But a good friend of mine tripped once, then did so again a few days later and he said for a couple months he had tracers and such in his vision.

 

I know that genetics plays a bit into this as well, but I used to be a very frequent tripper. At some point I developed paranoid schizophrenia and had to be hospitalized. Not saying it was the tripping that caused it but I think it played a little bit of a role at least.

 

don't feel bad, I get that way every time I do something I love that's labelled as "illegal"

 

1 out of 1000 people are said to have some sort of schizophrenia in there family history and ,yes, tripping would make it worse.
But thats just 1 out of a 1000 so I guess those are the odds if acid is actually safe...
lsd binds to serotonin receptors instea of forcing out serotonin like ectasy does thus making your brain able to heal over much better.. so HPPD and psycosis in 1/1000 are the only things to real be worried about.

 

^^I'm fairly certain that the actual amount that triggers schizophrenia is much less than 1/1000, due to the fact that just because one of your forfathers had schizophrenia doesn't mean that you will or that tripping will trigger it.

 

so that's 1.1/100, not 1/1000. It's not uncommon. For most of that 1.1% it's light to mild to moderate stuff, not severe schizophrenia (it comes in degrees like anything), and LSD, along with many, many, MANY other things in this universe, can exacerbate the condition, so that someone with light schizophrenia (so light they may not have noticed anything odd) take LSD and suddenly have moderate schizophrenia.

It doesn't cause it, it just is possible that it can make it worse, and even that is not a given.

 

Not only does it have different degrees but sometimes for me it can be pretty light then sometimes so severe you'd think I was from a different planet. my dad has bipolar disorder that can mimic schizophrenia in manic states, and that runs in my family apparently on both sides. so it shouldn't be by surprise that genetically I'm predisposed to it.. (my great grandmother had it and committed suicide)

 

I used to have a mild case of hppd. At a point I was tripping a couple times a week for like 2 months, not all on lsd though. I had many symptoms of hppd lasting for the last two years but most have faded or ive been able to override. I think I will still see mild tracers and trails for life though.

 

i'm really curious about western mental diseases in relationship to eastern wisdom and such. i used to claim i had OCD but eventually that whole concept just became meaningless the more i dabbled into my Self i guess you could say.

can you use emptiness to clear out the illusions of mental diseases or are mental diseases a legit thing? does anyone get what i mean?

i don't get it, just because like as far as HPPD goes, i would say you could say i had it for a few weeks after Bonnaroo 08 where i got a cosmic LSD revelation. but i never saw it as HPPD i just saw it as i SAW a slice of what life really is and that perception just didn't leave. eventually it faded away but the implications of the revelation have never left. so i just don't really get it with mental diseases. will we just drop them as meaningless concepts collectively someday or am i just being arrogant?


just curious, what is Schizophrenia in a nutshell?

 

I used to have serious hppd. Peoples faces would melt when I was having conversations, and this is when I was completly sober. I could barely maneuver in a dark room because of a wall of visuals. But I havent dropped acid in about 10 months, I have only eaten mushrooms a couple times in the past few months and the hppd is almost completly faded. Except for trails and everything has a grain like movement over it. Like when a TV is scrambled.

 

Well, speaking for myself only, I come from an eastern background of philosophy, but I still talk about things like OCD and schizophrenia and the DSM and Paxil all that, but when I speak about those things, I am implying that what I'm saying is true in the context from whence it came.

That is, there might very well 'be' 'no such thing' as schizophrenia, but we have this huge construct called Western Science and it has identified an entity in the universe called Schizophrenia, so why not discuss iy, *from the context of Western Science*, however weak or ultimately false that context may be.

There's obviously SOMETHING to that context, as people who are HURTING from schizophrenia can take medications that Western Science created, and feel better. So it's not a case of X is right and Y is wrong, but a case of everything being true in it's context.

All things are permitted

 

that makes sense.

don't touch any concepts but don't disregard them either. it's part of the play of existence.

 

I trip normally every week. Of course I take my breaks to... However I have not seen much damage if any.

 

"schizophrenia is just a catch all term for mental processes that we don't understand" -Terence Mckenna

and given that the ideal mental state defined by the DSM-IV is something that was pieced together largely by studying christian minds, this means the DSM-IV is really nothing more than an argument of why your brain should be christian-like using chemicals and personality traits as the reason why. Really, schizophrenia just means anything radically non-christian.

you go to spiritual practices like hinduism, shamanism or anything dealing with magick. Then things like talking to spirits, seeing added layers of reality, existing in your own little dimension for periods of time. These are all common things.


Manic states. NO NO NO. The universe is just giving you a burst of energy, learn to put it to proper use.

 

I consider that an added bonus

 

^^exactly dude, why not just ride the storm of mania. surf in mania. it will eventually go away. in fact, if you really embrace it you'll just wear yourself out it will go away. that's why i wonder about shit like that...manic-depressive, what does that mean? you might as well call me bipolar or whatever cause sometimes i'm inactive and other times really active. but i'm in complete understanding that they're always bound to change. these diseases just don't seem to have any validity i'm sorry this is just my interpretation.

 

That doesn't sound like hppd sounds like an affect of afterglow. hppd usually comes with uncontrollable negative issues. It became very hard for me to look at people during conversations or lectures because the auras I saw around them would become overwhelming distracting.
My driving was impacted, especially at night. Its 2 years since it started and I still have trails. It also keeps me from enjoying more than one hit of marijuana per session.

I just had a mild case, lots of people have hppd alot worse. Some people lose the ability to drive completely because of the visuals.