I guess thats one of the things I'm trying to figure out. What does a bag weigh?? And I know quality is all different but just trying to get a ball park figure, cause at the moment an 8 ball of tar can equal and 80mg Oxy. IDK, Thats why I'm here ..
My bags usually weigh about .2 or so, for 20 dollars worth. And it just depends what its cut with on how high you get from one, like you mentioned. But on average, I'd say if your tolerance is low then probably close to 50 or 60mg of Oxy rather than 80. But, that obviously goes down as you do it more often. Nasty story about black tar heroin though lol... One day when I was looking to get high, and my normal hookup who has powder, whom is ALWAYS good, was on vacation down in Myrtle Beach. Anyways, I was in the car with my dude from work and he calls this other guy, who buys his shit from the Mexicans, so I figured it was gonna be tar and it was. Anyways, I ALWAYS snort my H, I don't smoke it and I'm not interested in slamming it. So, what I did was take a half pop can and put some water in it and the little tar ball, and I took a sharpie with the cap and squished it and it all dissolved in the water after rubbing it around a bit. Then I took a straw and snorted the liquid, and let me tell you, that was some rancid shit. I got nice and high, but it was fucking discussing. lol
^^^HAHA, Thats how I do it. I disolve it in a spoon then suck it up with a neddleless syringe, Then snort it into each nostril, Making sure that I don't snort it to far up the nose... Don't want that shit going down my throat. YUK!!! So a half a gram is like roughly 60 to 80 mgs of Oxy..
black tar was way better than any fuckin powder ive ever done, i was hooked on tar for 2 years man...its all shit though in my opinion... and to the dude above me if thats true yall get shittty fuckin heroin, cause 2 oc 80s equal one 20 dollar baloon of tar
It is very difficult, if not impossible to compare heroin in general to any corresponding amount of OC 80s. Every dealer's 10's and 20's will be different. Very rarely do the corner boys actually bother to weigh out their stamp bags, unless you happen to be buying grams (called tickets around DC). A ticket of powder will range from 125-175, although unfortunately it's been at the higher end of that range lately, although that's probably because I get my dope delivered to my house instead of going out on the corner to cop. Don't think just because someone says a 20 bag is like doing a 20 mg OC that it will feel that way for you! Everyone has different tolerances to different chemicals, and every bag of heroin , when examined chemically, will be nearly as different as DNA. I'm not saying don't try it, just be responsible when dosing yourself. Don't dump a gram on the table and sniff it up in a half hour!!!!! Altho it does feel amazing! PS: I've only ever seen powder H around DC area, despite our heavy and diverse latino population. Never seen tar before in real life and frankly I'm glad because it sounds like a nasty drug. I'd probly stick to 80's rather than fuck with tar.
i had a stamp and lemme tell ya... 2 tiny ass bumps had me feelin like i took an 80. but more sedating, more nodding, and def more euphoric. that bag did last me over 2 days. H = king. I would say .3 = 160mg oxy IMO.
haha just go slow and ull be fine risin, im still trying to find that H and stoked to try it down in MEXICO!!!!!!!!
im a recent user, and i know im too young to be using but man its fucking hard to kick. anyway, i know what i got over in ohio aint black tar, but i aint sure if its china white cuz its a fine yet chalky powder but is a light yellowsh brown color...what would dat be?
That's what I do, and I love the taste! Gram for $50, does me in and my tolerance is up there. I have gone from Opana and Dilaudid to pretty much just H. It is cheaper and I don't use as much.
The grading system for illicit heroin was developed as a law enforcement tool. the grades are: #1 is actually morphine #2 is heroin freebase #3 is heroin and an admixture of other active and inactive ingredients to make it conducive for smoking, prepared as such at the point of manufacture #4 is injection ready heroin in hcl form A couple of notes: A] Tar Heroin does not fall into any of the numbered grades but, for all intensive purposes is #4, although it is not in hcl form B] #3 contains, almost always, caffeine in almost 50% porportions, quinine, and often phenobrabitone od benzos, strycchnine,
A couple of notes: A] Tar Heroin does not fall into any of the numbered grades but, for all intensive purposes is #4, although it is not in hcl form B] #3 contains, almost always, caffeine in almost 50% porportions, quinine, and often phenobrabitone od benzos, strycchnine, Don't talk if you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. And where the fuck did you read that # heroin system? #2 is heroin freebase? What...? Tar can be anywhere from shitty as fuck to better than whats called china white. Swim was driving to indianapolis for white powder that was at least double the purity by weight of any of the shit i'd tried from either the west or south side of chicago. Swim recently found a better hookkup in columbus who has tar the same purity as the white powder from indy.
I've tried arguing with people who do it, but they just continue to do it. Like cops/parents/forum members don't understand the lingo yet or something.... And like they think that would ACTUALLY protect them is the best part.
You don't know what a freebase is? It's basically the heroin in it's purest form, something that is unsmokable and that's why the other grades are present. I didn't read that heroin grading system anywhere, I saw it in a documentry about heroin from Afghanistan. If you read what I typed I never said tar was good or bad but it's graded as 4, I'm sure if you search the net you can find similar info.
theres a lot of misinformation in this thread. The only grade level I can tell you I know for sure is #4, the high purity stuff. I have only had what I assume to be #4, intranasally it was 2-4 times as potent as oxycodone. it will typically burn, smell/taste like vinegar, etc.
I do it because it makes me feel better about posting shit. That's it. Nothing more. I hardly think that they could get a search warrant on hearsay from the internet, but it's a witchunt these days and it can't hurt. Yup, thats what it comes down to. It can't hurt.
ive shot both black tar and powder dope...and..ive found that depending upon the quality of the dope, both can be as good or as bad as the other.
And to Toke.. If you are a drug user, especially a junkie, your human rights can be violated in ANY way the authorities deem fit so..type what you want dear..fuck what anyone else says.
