Sons of Liberty

oh i am far from sitting on my lazy ass and bitching. we are and have been slowly and methodically preparing to take care of ourselves during whats coming..

we are not cowards,nor do we intend to be on the streets. you obviously have no idea who we are or what we are all about.

if things fell apart tomorrow we can and would survive indefinitely without relying on any outside sources.we are fully prepared to defend what we have to the death if that is what heads our way.

we will survive whats coming or die trying..

see, thats what you fail to see,all your planning to stop them means nothing when they control the resources. they cut off your food supply and your sit in will become a hunger strike and you will simply wither away and die..

you say youll join together and grow your own food?? you are a pacifist,someone will simply come and take your food.
thats where your whole idealism is flawed in a nutshell.

you can never succeed in stopping the powers that be with peaceful means and quite frankly i doubt people can through violence.

whats coming will be all about survival of the fittest and most prepared.it will be bloody,painful and grim and in the end those who are in power now probably will still be.

i really dont think you comprehend any of whats coming,if you did you wouldnt be wasting your time thinking you can stop it,you would be preparing to attempt to survive it..

 

yes SIT ins they work really good..
In Tiananmen Square it didnt look to good.. 60 tons of tank..

 

and the non violent protests went so well at the RNC and DNC as well didnt they??

 

The only reason that peaceful means to ending a conflict do not work is that there are often not enough people to make them work, perhaps all those at Tianmen Square did get it, but their name has gone down in history for what they attempted to do, if it weren't for them and others like them many things that we now know would not have happened. The reason peace doesn't work is because people like you won't let it work. Plain and simple. And as to you hhb all you do is sit there and take care of yourself, which is still being lazy, who knows perhaps your knowledge would be the deciding factor of a war or revolution against the powers that be. But instead you think you can weather out this coming storm, that my friend is foolishness, does a single wolf weather out a winter blizzard, does a child weather out the death of its mother at a very young age? No, they die, and you will too, and you will die all alone, with no one else to help you. I would rather die standing up for what I believe in peacefully, then die ina house in the middle of nowhere, doing nothing. Don't fool yourself, you're no better than anyone else, nor are you smarter, not even wiser. You will be shown the flaw of your thinking when all is said and done and the real defenders are no more.

 

you have no idea what your talking about. you think one can be lazy and live a self sustaining life do you?? your not a rocket scientist are you??

i have no desire to be part of a revolution,our life aint that bad..

i assure you,i wont die alone,and if we do indeed perish it wont be from lack of preparation nor will it be because i was dependent on someone else and they were not there.as i stated, we are prepared to live indefinitely without aid from anyone or die trying to defend what we have.

once again,you have no comprehension of what it takes to live self sustaining do you??

i dont claim to be better than anyone else, and only time will tell if my thinking is flawed.it would seem that you are the one that is sure you and your way of thinking is better than at the very least mine.


i know you wish beyond all wishes that it will be,but history itself tells me what we are doing is the ONLY chance that we and others like us have to survive whats coming. history itself tells us that those who dont heed the warnings and prepare to take care of themselves will be the first to perish.

so you go right ahead and stand up for what you believe in,you go right ahead and die trying to change whats coming,like i said,earlier in this thread,i sympathize and support your right to do so if thats the way ya wanna go out.kinda stupid to bring a flower to a gunfight,but hey who am i to protect a idiot from themselves??

as for us,we will ride it out and see where things stand and what kind of world emerges from the ashes when its over and then decide what our next move will be. the game aint over till the fat lady sings..

 

And what if a one world fascist government arises? That is afterall what is in the works even now, what will you do when the world around you is no longer free? And yes I do know how to live a self sustaining life, I lived in a tent by myself for almost 2 years. But not helping your fellow man when the need is high is lazy, and very inconsiderate, one who allows the world to change around them also allows the world to change them. Personally I'm not just gonna sit around in a tent or what not an' let some assholes who think they should rule the world, take it over. I'd rather die.

 

fact is,your not gonna do shit unless your probation officer tells you its ok,so quit talkin shit!! i see you crying about it all the time. just what do you think your PO would think about this little discussion?? lol yeah right... for that matter what do you think the people that decide whether you join the peace corps (if your PO was to be nice and push the papers through ) would say about this conversation??

and i got news for you,living in a tent by the river is nothing like growing 100% of your own food so dont even go there..

once again,whats fixing to happen is going to happen no matter what you,i or anyone else does. it doesnt matter what TPTB plan is,once this starts its out of their hands and even they know this. that is why they have plans to go underground.

so like i said,we are preparing to attempt to survive whats coming,that is our focus,if we indeed survive,when the dust settles and the smoke clears,as i said THEN we will see where we stand..

its far to late to think any action is going to stop whats coming,,but again like i said,if thats what ya wanna do,who am i to stand in your way,ya cant stop stupid.

as for me and mine,we are hunkering down,digging in,and doing our best to prepare.

 

I find it ironic that you continue to insult me, I have done nothing to you, its obvious that you yourself must have some severe problems with yourself to continually find it nice and entertaining to insult others. And living in a tent down by a river as you said, is very much like what you say you do. I had my own garden, I made my own drinking water, I created my own bath area, I even made a lil barb wire fence around my area to keep unwanted animals out, the only difference between how you live and how I did is that you have a larger establishment and more people living there. Also it is quit obvious that you yourself will not be doing anything cept continuing to be pig headed. If enough poeple wised up we could change the problems that are occuring. But it is people like you, who continue to see the glass half empty that are holding us back...

And you may as well not even bother tryin' to talk about my probation, you complain more about everything than I do about that. I'm sorry that you have to always be so hateful toward some people, its a horrible way to live.

Now anyway, for those of us who want to do something, what can we do? Revolution has to be started on many fronts, it can't just be started with a war or even a peaceful sit in. What can you do to aid in this future?

 

not really i just call it like i see it,if thats insulting to you then maybe your a lil thin skinned.

well isnt that special..

oh really now?? lol its quite obvious you have no idea what your talking about now. how many quarts of vegetables did you can and how much did you dehydrate to get you through those two winters?? did you hold down a job and pay for that piece of land? did you build your own home,put in your own root cellar,raise your own livestock?

of course not,but hey if you feel the need to call a apple a orange,who am i to stop you.

stubborn is my middle name and its helped me accomplish quite a lot.

1.14 QUADRILLION dollars in derivatives say otherwise..

dont blame me for your lack of fortitude. i am just words on your screen,go ahead get out there and see how long it takes you to wind up back in jail..

oh its very relevent to this thread whether your smart enough to realize it or not.

that makes zero sense,getting flustered?

oh please dont feel sorry for me,the last thing i want or need is sympathy from you.

LULZ i would love for your PO to see this.what am i talking about,you keep it up he probably will..lol

 

i like retarded people..

 

HHB unless you have something positive to contribute to this thread I don't think we need all of the constant blabbing, and as to the government officials who may see this, I myself am not talking about another revolutionary war here, I'm talking about protests, learning to live off the land again, standing up for our rights, that sort of thing. They of course would realize this and not become overly alarmed in my opinion, now when you get to things where people are talking about bombing or shooting up a place to proove a point then you have a problem. I'm not going to continue arguing with you because you simply talk in circles and that added to my arguing is keeping this thread from ever getting anywhere.

 

the sons of liberty is who you proposed emulating in the OP.

now once again,if you think that that was what they did then perhaps you should research them more.

and if what you said is actually what you intend,dont insult and belittle what they did by using their name ..

i have given examples of the modern day sons of liberty in this thread already,they dont need to step over you staging a sit in to carry out their intent,in fact something tells me they wouldnt be happy about having to do so..

i talk in circles? your the one who condemns a militia,then invokes the sons of liberty as what you wanna be a part of,then goes back to "im all about peace man"..

lol.. me circles?? yeah right.

 

There can be two sides to every coin man, not all of those who were in the SOL back in the day were doing all of the violent acts that occured. I suppose it just depends on how you look at it. The revolution wouldn't have been won if it hadn't been for great thinkers like Ben Franklin or Tomas Jefferson.

 

Shut the fuck up you old wrinkly asshole.

 

Just ignore him bro.

 

The Third Pennamite War (1784)

Connecticut and Pennsylvania stopped fighting during the Revolution, but then promptly resumed hostilities. The Decision of Trenton gave the prize to Pennsylvania, whose legislature promptly abused the helpless remaining Connecticut settlers.
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and so, after the Revolution was finally over, there was a third war between Pennsylvanians and the Connecticut born settlers of the Wyoming Valley. This time, the disputes were focused on, not the land grants of King Charles but the 1771 land sales by Penn family, most of which conflicted with land sales to the Connecticut settlers by the Susquehanna Company. The Connecticut settlers felt they had paid for the land in good faith, and had certainly suffered to defend it against the common enemy. The Pennsylvanians were composed of speculators (mostly in Philadelphia) and settlers (mostly Scotch-Irish from Lancaster County). Between them, these two groups easily controlled the votes in the Pennsylvania Assembly, leading to some outrageous political behavior which conferred legal justification on disgraceful vigilante behavior. For example, once the American Revolution was finally over (1783) the Decision of Trenton had given clear control to Pennsylvania, so its Assembly appointed two ruffians named Patterson and Armstrong to be commissioners in the Wyoming Valley. These two promptly gave the settlers six months to leave the land, and using a slight show of resistance as sufficient pretext, burned the buildings and scattered the inhabitants, killing a number of them. One of the weaknesses of the Articles of Confederation was thus promptly demonstrated, as well as the ensuing importance of a little-understood provision of the new (1787) Constitution . No state may now interfere in the provisions of private contracts. Those with nostalgia for states rights must overcome a heavy burden of history about what state legislatures were capable of doing in this and similar matters, in the days before the federal government was empowered to stop it.

 

no the revolution was won because of the fortitude of those who fought and died in lost cause after lost cause,only to out last a overwhelming opponent to finally emerge victorious . not because of a buncha rich old bastards sitting in arm chairs drinking brandy and discussing the finer points of politics..

 

umm,, no...

 

Well anyway, I think to change this world we have to have a two pronged approach, I think first we should form protests and intentional communites, to survive the fall of any government, no matter which side it falls to. If peaceful protest doesn't get the job done then I guess the only other answer would have to be a more violent method, I hope it doesn't come to that, but we have to do something, or our government will fall. Wouldn't it be impressive if the U.S.A. became the first country in the entire world to form an entire constitution and society based on peaceful principles? Hmm