Listen, The earth will be here long after humans are gone. It has been here for billions of years and will be here for many more billions of years. The environmental threat people speak of is not so much a threat to the earth as it is to lose living on the earth, which some of the more radical environmentalists will say are "parasitic." But first people need to learn to separate the reality from the bullshit. Of course there are real environmental problems. That's why I don't drink tap water, because it's loaded with garbage. In many cities the air is unfit to breathe. Huge swaths of rainforest are being cut down every year. These are all REAL problems, most caused by the same elitists and their corporations that are now calling for the "solutions" to combat climate change. However, you have to realize that all this climate change stuff regarding humans and CO2 is complete and utter rubbish that's been contrived by people in high positions of power, as a way to get even more money out of people and further consolidate their control. The earth's climate has never stopped changing, and everyday more and more independent scientists are refuting the manmade global warming ruse. But it's the establishment itself that is pushing this global warming nonsense. It's the corporate controlled media, which I though is supposed to be against the environment. So this green agenda ties in very much with what's going on right now. Hillary Clinton recently said something regarding the financial crisis -- something to the effect of "never waste a good crisis." Well, she was speaking of using the economic crisis to usher in this next phase of having "green jobs" and a "green economy." The reality is that this has little to do with the environment and everything to do with taxing and regulating people's lives, and having better control over the population. The environmental movement was funded into existence by some of the biggest corporations, including big oil. Just look into the 1001 Club, set up by former SS officer, Prince Bernhard. The people promoting this agenda at the highest levels of power are all elitists and major eugenicists who believe heavily in reducing the world's population, not to save the environment but to rid the earth of all us "inferior rabble."
I'll be old or dead by the time shit starts goin south - however, if I'm still able bodied and all, no doubt I'll join a revolution. Bring out the guillotine, we're going French on their asses. I have mixed feelings about all these conspiracies...it seems far-fetched, but then again it wouldn't really surprise me. I guess if shit happens, shit happens and I'll have to cope with it from there. But now? I'll wade through the shit that I'm currently presented with. However I strongly disagree with the whole idea that the environment is "going through a phase". While looking at the world in the big picture scope, yes it is natural. However, our egos are present as a tool to benefit the world, not destroy it. I do believe that humans are destroying the world - and for you to deny that is ignorant. Freshwater rivers were meant to be fished and drank from by a creator - it is unnatural that we have made it so that neither fish nor humans can obtain life from the earth's waters. Eh...
I can accept that humans are destroying the planet as long as the biggest offenders against the environment are not relegated to the level of savior to offer the "solution," giving them even more power and control. Multinational corporations are what is destroying the environment. To lump all humans in with this is unfair. The so-called "carbon footprint" of people like myself is far lower than many of the loudest advocates of "saving the environment." I am not going to buy into the corporate propaganda that tells me I need to feel guilty for being a human. This sort of mindset is the result of extensive brainwashing from the media and education system. If people really understood what was going on right now, they would realize that all this environmental hype is being put out there by the same people that have created this mess we're in, in order to distract us and make us accept things we otherwise wouldn't. The most urgent threat humanity is facing right now is not from global warming, but from control freaks who want to exercise their power over every person living on this planet. They will do this through mass manipulation via their propaganda, creating consensus. The people will literally beg for the government to save them, not knowing that they're being lead right into their pens.
I don't think it is so "we want power/control" whatever thing as you say as much as these companies are thinking "profit" which...is natural for fat ass corporations. Sometimes you gotta chill out and realize not everything is out to get YOU, but out to get your money lol
You're 17 years old. I am a researcher into these topics and have been studying this stuff since before you were even in kindergarten. That isn't meant as an insult, I am just saying. You have to actually read books and do the actual research that is required before jumping to conclusions about how you THINK things in this world operate. The people after the control are the people behind the world's biggest corporations. The corporations themselves are simply fronts through which the elite operate. At the corporate level it is indeed about money, but to the people at the top, who control these corporations, it's about power.
I just made a comment about how I hate people using age/education to one-up others on the webz...anyways That was kind of ignorant, and I won't take it personally, instead you can ponder how amazing the powers of natural knowledge combined with an ambitious willingness to learn really are... Money = power no doubt...your post is rather redundant to mine - or at least the thoughts I had while writing it. Maybe this post was just there to point out my age difference? Kind of feels like it with the statement suggesting that I jump to conclusions on how the world is run? Chances are you have no idea about the majority of "how the world is run" - and neither do most people in the world. Hmm, I feel that my opinion is not considered less valid than yours or anyone else's. Perhaps you study this junk, but I have an interest in it and have read about it as well. Don't assume things here, bud. I don't mean this as an insult, but I think your head is full of poop. haha ________ I take all conspiracies with a truckload of salt - though that's not saying anything can't happen. I just feel that these "death camps" are way over our heads. Pretty much everything know by civilians is speculation - though speculation may be dead on, it is still speculation. I would bet it has something to do with immigration and moving people out of this country.
Eh...not really. I just find it hard to believe that out of all the members in the government that may be involved with it, not one has the gut to speak out to the public about it. Perhaps my hope for humanity's good will is pretty high? Perhaps it will come crashing down...blahzay blah!
i think fema camp are for the future people who denied the worship of the beast nor his mark! i doubt its about immagration.
Like I said, I suppose I have high expectations for peoples' moral values. Endangering possibly hundreds of thousands of lives shouldn't have a price - I hope
^^^If we did all that, then what would we have forums for.I mean we need dumb fucks like you to provide all this knowlege for us, and to belittle people making threads for dicussion.. Thats also what he is doing here, he is learning.. So if your the god almighty and feel you are better than us. then why bother putting your 2 cents in. In fact every thing you wrote was meaningless to the OP's question, Well til you copied and pasteed something.. OH ya don't forget to comment on my spelling to.You seem like one of those..:hurray:
Wow. First off, Rat was simply trying to tell you that he's had years of experience researching these Conspiracy Theories (CT's, for short). So, THEN, if you had noticed his join date, you would have found that he's been here for a while, and hasn't felt the need to have to dump his identity. After recognizing that this person, whom certainly understands the in-and-outs of these boards, might just be worth listening to, the first thing you could have done was searched for other posts he's made. SEE if what you're thinking about him is true. 'Cuz what you did? You assumed something, and you made your opinion less valid, by NOT being willing to do some basic research, and by arrogantly flaunting your great knowledge. To quote you: "That was kind of ignorant." And yet, you act like you've never heard of anything Rat was talking about??? i could quote you, again, but most of us try to stay from insulting each other by respecting each other. Immigration? Even though we KNOW that the borders can NOT be secured, and they can just come right back??? Built to specs that would make a high security prison jealous? Filled with nice, cheap, plastic coffins? That isn't way over my head, pal. Plans ARE being made ~ look up some of Rat's posts, and prepared to be educated ~ by him the other folks that really put the time and effort into the painstaking research, as opposed to "I have an interest in it and have read about it as well." Bottom line: Respect us and we'll respect you; Dis' us, and we'll just put you on "Ignore" and never think about you again.
Damn - take shit personal? And as far as my thoughts about it...I really don't know what to say but it's my opinion who the fuck cares? I am all for respecting but when I'm not treated equally then I'm not being respected.
Not all that personally ~ heck, i'm nothing but an elf in a machine! It's just that, like you, i came here thinking certain things, and actually believing that MOST CT's were so much hog wash, but the more i read ~ both the articles AND the opinions of the folks that knew from whence they spoke ~ the more logical, probable and likely some of the "theories" became. You are young, and inexperienced. That isn't something BAD ~ in fact, it's Great! But see? We aren't operating on opinion, alone. (You know the saying about opinions! ) There ARE valid sources, which CAN be found, on which to base your opinion. That's pretty much what we're trying to do ~ explore other ways of looking at, and thinking about, where we're going, as a nation. Join us! :sifone: It's amazing and FUN! :rofl:
Well the fact that you just told me that I assumed shit and made my points less valid is hilarious when you assumed that I've never read about these things before. Trust me - age really doesn't matter on a subject like this. I've read a lot on this, I've watched a lot, I've read a lot of history in general. My take on it? I'd like to think that it isn't for US citizens, but I said earlier: I really don't know. So get out of here with your downwards demeanor
WHOA, pal! Did you miss the part where i actually invited you to join in? And if treating you as an equal, expected to follow the same "rules" that we do (providing citations, articles, youtube vids, etc.), to back up your claims doesn't exactly "suit you," i don't know what to tell you. i truly don't have a "downwards demeanor" towards you ~ Just my 2ยข, trying to make your visit/stay a pleasant one, is all.
I didn't make any claims...I don't understand where you are getting this? I stated my opinion from what I've gotten from all of what I've seen on this stuff... I'm with all the rules, I'm just tired of people taking my points and rebutting with "Oh but you don't know you're young" - which is fine, but you don't add any more substance to that...it's just I dont know anything. Well you'd be surprised at what I do know... That right there is assuming...and you coaching me on how to not do it? Well - practice what you preach Besides - I'm pretty sure this was an agreeable topic, I just have my doubts on a lot of conspiracies.
That's the beauty of having things posted ~ you can always go back and quote them. Here's what i actually said: Oops! @ bold Since i recognized that you had said the above, how do you figure that i was assuming that you didn't? It's just that research and studying are a LOT different than just reading. Well, whatever. If you're going to troll, i'm going to put you on "Ignore" ~ i won't even see your posts. Hey, and if it's any consolation? We've all done it, at one time or another ~ confused our "opinions" with facts, not in evidence, and then spent HOURS trying to find our source, and wondering if we really DID remember it correctly... Study and research are different ~ you take notes; you use references to articles; etc. ~ and after a while, things start to come together, certain names keep popping up, certain terms rear their ugly heads, then certain events start to make some sort of sense, and start tying into other happenings, explaining the (not so) "What the ???" game. Well, take this as you will ~ it isn't meant to be a put down, at all.