read as much as I possibly could to prepare myself.... purchased 20x salvia..... read some more.... I feel ready to experience the world of salvia............ one question though: not only do i NOT have a trip sitter, I don't want one and feel like it would intrude upon my energies i have surrounded myself with in preparation for this experience.... in all honesty do i really need a trip sitter? everything i've read says it's a MUST.... im not a dumbass and have a lot of experience with many types of drugs, im not emotionally/mentally unstable and dont feel like i would pose a danger to myself... i would obviously take the proper precautions such as no weapons or open flames... i guess i just want to hear that a trip sitter isn't neccesary?!
first time i did salvia i didnt have a sitter. i've had a sitter all other times though, and i never really needed them. like it helped to have someone to talk to, but it definitely wasn't necessary.
i kinda forgot about salvia, i may just have to get some soon. but yea have a blast! its too short acting IMO to need a sitter, unless ur mega stupid and tend to do stupid shit lol
if you take proper precautions (no external stimuli, lay down as soon as you hit it, stay in the dark, etc.) then no sitter is needed at all. i would also suggest using a regular bowl. a bong would be easy to knock over and break/spill if you DO try to do something stupid when you're under the effects the ONLY time i've freaked out on a psychedelic was when i smoked a big hit of strong extract out of a glass bong with a friend, in a light room, while watching the fifth element. the movie started yelling at me, everything got strange and alien, i was extremely disoriented, and as i felt myself slipping away i stood up and grabbed onto the first thing i could identify as relating to me: my bong. i stumbled around holding this big expensive glass bong for a couple minutes while my friend was asking me if i was okay and trying to get me to sit down. nothing beyond that happened, but it was not fun, and i potentially could have gotten hurt. its not a social drug AT ALL, and there is nowhere more appropriate to do it than in the dark, by yourself, laying down, if my thoughts are to be believed. i also would suggest smoking a bit of herb first. and yeah, the bong doesnt matter, nor does a torch lighter. just keep the flame on it the whole time you're hitting it. and hold it as long as you can. and if its 20x, use only a SMALL pinch. better to underdo it at first than overdo it. trust me, its serious business.
you dont NEED one, but it may be good for your first time, especially if you have one of those experiences where you want to 'go somewhere" (meaning that your trying to locomote while in a poor state of balance)
oh nesta!! awsome!! you totally just alleviated any remaining apprehension i had about doin it... and that was the one remaining question i had about it, whether or not to smoke weed before hand... hopefully i'll have somethin worthwhile to report back with!!
just make sure you're as comfortable as possible, because if you break through you won't remember what comfort even means
yea, nothing can prepare you for salvia really. best to just do it! i had people around my first time, and wasn't really in the best setting. still had an immensly profound experience though. but i would recomend a sitter your first time, just to learn how you will react. you should really try to find a person that will sit for you anyway. a person to trip with is a good thing to have if your in to psychedelic journeys in general.
holy shit why didnt anyone tell me that shit was so fuckin intense??? i dont even know what to say...i am in complete awe whats more is, i only smoked .3g which from what i understand isn't that much I fought the high though it was weird, but not scary heres what happened, i smoked it layed back on the bed and then all of the sudden there were a few? familiar? feminine entities on either side of the bed whooshing a brightly colored blanked over me bringing it up closer to my head but when it got to my arm i started to feel an uncomfortable pressure on it and i tried to sit up which ended the vision?! then i got up and tried walking out of the room, which was more stumbling and got a smoke... for the next few minutes i kind of paced around the room anxiously and somehwat nervously... i smoked 2 huge bowls to calm myself down and still kinda feel tripped out but in a cool way...i am in complete awe. i know i already said it..but really.... wow i havent brought myself to watch the video of it yet...im really shaken right now, but i feel good and positive?! i dont know when ill smoke more i gotta let this whole thing settle in in all my years of tripping i have never ever seen something that wasnt there...let alone people.. wow
now you know why most people don't repeat it, and why most people find nothing recreational about it. i thought 20x sounded way too strong for a first time, but then i struggled to break through the first couple times (at 7x) though once i did the same stuff gave me some of the most profound psychedelic trips of my life. its the kind of thing that has the potential to completely alter your worldview, the basic paradigms within which you operate. i've seen a goddess heal a person close to me of a disease from which she suffered. the next day the person told me she was feeling all better, the pain was gone. she only got better from thereon out. i've been taken to all manner of dimensions alien to me. who DIDNT tell you it was so intense? you said you did your homework lady, it can be an amazing experience, it can be a hellish experience, or it can be simply a very alien experience. be glad it wasn't hellish, because salvia is the only thing so far which has kicked my ass so bad that it scared me. treat it with the respect it deserves, but until you have been there, you can't be prepared to know it, you won't know what kind of respect it deserves. it is something totally apart from this world. hopefully now you know. this isn't a toy. with this knowledge, you have the potential to reach some very beautiful places. i've met gods, i've transformed into technology, i'd seen behind the scenes of normal reality, i've met goddesses, i've seen miracles. i would suggest using caution. nobody told you because language is inadequate in conveying to you the possibilities which exist. this is the kind of thing that makes you question empiricism. i know you weren't GIVEN any answers. but in time, hopefully, the answers will come. anyway, remember than raw leaf isn't usually enough to really get you where you want, but that at a certain point an extract gets too strong, and will take you to more bizarre but not necessarily more worthwhile realms. personally 10x is the max for what i do when i want to use salvia anymore. a couple of 20x experiences were MORE than enough. i gave away the rest to a friend who could handle it.
lol, of course i knew it was intense, from what i understood in my reading it was impossible to describe how intense it is... my god *shakes head* i am shaken in the best of ways over this, i feel crazily excited about its potential and bow in awe to its ......to it's what? i don't even know, it's power, it's magic....?!? the things i was saying in my video and the actual time lapse from my perceived time is mind blowing(the first thing i said in the video while tripping was "someone said they were taking their arms" all of it...i just dont know what to say i am humbled to say the least
i also felt like i was literally fighting to keep control or some grasp on reality which made it hard to let go and just flow with it... it was like the logical part of my brain caught wind of this hallucination and was like, no fuckin way and just tore it out of my vision... or maybe it was just fear of letting go i dont know it doesnt make sense right now
psychedelics have lead me to become polytheistic in a way. imo, you don't know what worship really is until you come face to face with a god and are so moved there is no part of your existence which is doing anything other than worshiping that entity. i was moved at first. then i thought it was something which could be mastered, only to get myself whipped into shape so badly that i didnt know how to cope. i suggest moving to a lighter extract, for fear of losing a potentially wonderful force in your life. this has potential to be very wonderful, but it has also the power to be very negative. treat it with respect, go slowly!
I most certainly respect it, and had long before I'd ever tried it.... worship is a very personal thing and I think it's hard to question anyone's choices or experiences or faith when it comes to that without being hypocritical... I don't think a lighter extract at this point will make much difference, i dont now nor have i ever had intention of recreational use... I wouldnt change much about how it went down, I educated, meditated, and medicated (pot haha) I knew that I had no idea of what was about to happen and I love the feelings that it sparked in me... I will let it all sink in for awhile before I even consider trying it again I am content with where its at for now
ftw nesta: my original intention was not to buy the 20x...well actually it was, i was going to buy the lowest and the highest strains and work my way up but, the place i bought it from only had 20x , so i just got that.....
yea man my 20X experiences were so insane that i don't even know what to say. strange thing is that now sometimes my bong highs make me feel like im tripping on salvia a bit. salvia and marijuana are definitely cousins. it's like salvia will take you up and over and out of the normal extremely intense weed high. my second time smoking i merged(met) with god, but i wasn't ready so i peeled back. it was a very intense experience, nothing quite like it in all my years of tripping. i havn't smoking since.
